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Warning! this post is going to contain rank Speculation! I will mark it when I come to it.

The exchange on the Patterico/McCain business continues and has spilled over to other blogs, some that I like but don’t read daily such as Little Miss Attila, some that I only read once in a while such as Protein Wisdom and some that I’ve never seen before but I think I’ll read more often such as South Texan (thanks for the link btw).

I like a good debate as much as the next guy and tend to enjoy it. This debate is trickier than others because a person’s reputation is at stake, so here is what I think concerning this.

I think that both Robert Stacy and Patterico are acting in good faith. I don’t think this is a question of a grudge although there is the potential for one two develop. I think that would be a shame.

Ok here comes the totally unsubstantiated speculation because I’m talking about other people’s motives without asking them. This is my opinion and guess and is based on nothing except that: (more…)

Sarah Palin continues to prove herself a master of political Jiu-Jitsu.

Palin’s statement causes Gore to respond. Since Gore is responding the networks cover it and are forced to cover the climategate issue, even to discount it, but Palin also throws back:

Former Vice President Gore also claimed today that the scientific community has worked on this issue for 20 years, and therefore it is settled science. Well, the Climategate scandal involves the leading experts in this field, and if Climategate is proof of the larger method used over the past 20 years, then Vice President Gore seriously needs to consider that their findings are flawed, falsified, or inconclusive.

Vice President Gore, the Climategate scandal exists. You might even say that it’s sort of like gravity: you simply can’t deny it.

and the networks (like Morning Joe this morning) cover that too.

The end result of all of this will be people’s exposure to the evidence, this can’t but hurt the Climate change cult as thread after thread that defends the “decline hiders” turns into rebuttal from normally reliable readers.

Most importantly while the usual suspects cry foul, fair people on the other side are asking probing questions about the data.

The worm is turning and their fear is palatable. When Palin can go toe to toe with as seasoned a pol as a former congressman, Senator and 2 term Vice president from a political family and come out not only ahead but standing the left has to be shaking.

Exit Question: Is it a coincidence that one person in this debate is making public appearances all over the country, while the other ducks public forums?

…and so far the speech is first rate.

The acknowledgment of those who came before him, winning the prize due to decades of action and suffering, was and is very important. The call out to those who are actually doing peacemaking and are imprisoned for the cause of freedom (it would have been nice to say a few by name but I’ll take it).

He acknowledges the war and his involvement in deploying troops. He declares it a just war.

He then talks about the history of the 20th century and talks about the doctrine of Just war and makes it clear that the United States is justly proud of it’s actions.

He talks about “A few small men with outsized rage.” That is the best description of the terrorists we fight that I’ve heard. He says that you can not negotiate with Al Qaeda.

“To say that force is sometimes necessary is not cynicism”. Is this Actually Barack Obama talking?

He declares publicly that the peace of the latter half of the 20th century was directly purchased by American power and blood. This is a Nixon/China moment. They would have laughed at George Bush saying that even if it was true.

Whoever wrote this speech isn’t being paid enough, this is clearly the best speech I’ve ever heard him give.

Now he is going back to his normal stuff, he is about to hit Gitmo etc…

Ran outside to sand the walk before the wife leaves for work so missed it from that point where he says Wanting peace is not enough it make it happen.

The only applause he gets is when he hits Gitmo, the torture line is BS. this tells us more about this crowd then anything else.

I think he is going too long now, if he is smart he will cut is short here.

He is now talking about proliferation.

Those who care about their own security can’t ignore localized arms races.

He talks about the need to act rather than sit back concerning sanctions.

He talks about freedom of speech and religion and it’s necessity for peace.

He hits Burma and Zimbabwe and Iran by name holy shit he is sounding like an Actual president!

Update: The Wall Street Journal is liveblogging this speech.

He now gives Copenhagen a thumbs up and plugs climate change. Nonsense but not unexpected.

Hits the concept of “Holy War”, throws a bone to Islam by attacking the Crusades. He hasn’t read his Thomas Madden.

Clearly a first rate speech and a decent job. I think it was very much a Nixon China speech. On Morning Joe they point out that the European left will not like this speech.

Update 2: The NYT Take is here.

Talkleft describes the situation as a travesty of a Mockery, it’s true in my opinion he doesn’t deserve the prize but it’s a consolation that the socialist European left that gave him the prize had to listen to him tell them that their ideal world only exists thanks to American Power and Blood, that’s gotta leave a mark!

I guess this is sort of a non-traditional liveblog of President Obama Nobel Olympic Speech, I’d be interested if people think I should have done a more traditional one with timestamps and more direct quotes.

Update 3: Is it just me or could George Bush have given that speech with only minor alterations?

Update 4: I guess I’m in good company

Sarah Palin and President Obama don’t agree on much, but last year’s Republican vice presidential nominee just gave the president’s defense of “just wars” a thumbs up in an interview with USA TODAY. In fact, she said that the president’s address in Oslo, where he accepted the Nobel Peace Prize today, reminded her of what she wrote on the same subject in her hugely successful memoir, Going Rogue.

Smart woman that.

….and his review in the New York Times shows it. And in four sentences he boils down the essence of both Sarah Palin and the book.

For many politicians, family life is sandwiched in between long hours in public service. Palin wants us to know that for her it is the reverse. Political success is an accident that says nothing about you. Success as a wife, mother and citizen says everything.

That is the bottom line, oh and notice the amusing condensation he deals with in simply obtaining the book and the talking down he gets from the shocked readers of the times totally unaccustomed to even a review of a conservative book let alone a positive one..

My own review is here and my post here.

Via Glenn.