Morning Joe eveyone in studio

Posted: May 14, 2009 by datechguy in opinion/news
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Starting with the Obama situation

6:02 a.m. The topic is the photos and Obama

6:04 a.m. Barnicle: It’s good that he listens to the generals on this one instead of the polls.

6:06 a.m. Willie wasn’t invited? Must have been because he voted for Miss California.

6:08 a.m. That is a very classy line by the president. Very well said.

6:14 a.m. “I pulled something but not a string.” Mika’s head is on the desk Joe turned around and Willie walked away so Barnicle had to do the next bit. That moment was worth being up this early.

6:20 a.m. You know the idea that this is to protect democratic pols didn’t hit me at all.

6:24 a.m. Take Obama away from the Democratic party and they are weak. Everyone agrees. I guess Mrs. Clinton star has truly fallen.

6:30 a.m. Market down unexpectedly. Is it?

6:33 a.m. What parent would put their child on the local airline after this?

6:39 a.m. We will leave it there on the joke.

6:41 a.m. Until someone else steps up Rush is it, that’s true but I think that Rush is right and the more people who actually hear him will agree, but then again I think the best voice I heard was on morning joe two days ago.

6:43 a.m There was not one tea party when George Bush was president. Harold never heard of Porkbusters or saw the graph. As Glenn pointed out there was a protest, it was the elections of 2006 & 2008 when conservatives stayed home.

6:57 a.m. Put your phone on vibrate, Barnicle is not allowed to comment. That was funny and Gibbs is right.

6:59 a.m. Did anyone else notice Barnicle’s hand was under the table during the entire Maxim 100 segment?

7:02 a.m. They do a lot of fund raisers don’t they?

7:06 a.m. This will all come out. Joe was right about the democrats on this and he is right about this.

7:07 a.m. Harold Ford is right again. Joe is right, he would make an acceptable moderate republican.

7:09 a.m. Joe I like you but you aren’t a Catholic, Barnicle is and should know better.

7:10 a.m. This isn’t a speech code, he is being given a honorary degree at a CATHOLIC university when he is radically pro abortion. That is contrary to our beliefs.

7:11 a.m. You know if I’d been tailing this guy for 40 min i might have lost it up front too.

7:13 a.m. Mark my words it will be AFTER the Notre Dame speech. His appointment is going to be a kick in the teeth to ND.

7:14 a.m. Harold and Joe make a good point but that is because like slavery Abortion is a seminal issue of good vs evil. It can’t help but be the point.

7:16 a.m. This all sounds nice but the job of a judge is to read the law and rule based on what it says. Not on what their life experience gives them. They are umpires. Their job is to apply the rules.

7:18 a.m. I think Richard Hass is exactly wrong on these issues. I predict before he actually comes on his arguments will the opposite of what is correct.

7:32 a.m. Jed Babbin on Morning Joe?

7:39 a.m. He points out that Powell ran out on his own and points out his bs on the Plame scandal.

7:47 a.m. It is a lot more complicated when it is your stuff. It’s a question of protecting troops in Afghanistan. Hass proves me wrong right away. Good for him!

7:48 a.m. There is nothing more satisfying than being proved wrong when you think ill of people’s opinion, I hope president Obama proves me wrong a lot.

8:06 a.m. You know that Savannah is a real good sport. The time will come when she can take over Mika’s chair. Mika better watch out.

8:22 a.m. You can say things on this show but you will be accurately represented.

8:26 a.m. Ad Hoc decisions?

8:37 a.m. The great morning joe Wars are on. MSNBC vs CNBC

8:38 a.m. This is a lot of fun, but relative to the other Joe he is liberal.

8:40 a.m. You are copying CNBC you have 6 boxes up.

8:42 a.m. And these guys are talking about the big tent that the republicans need?

8:48 a.m. Monica Pelosi. Barnicle is off the hook.

One more thing about the Cutie…

Posted: May 13, 2009 by datechguy in catholic

I have a pet peeve about people making the argument about priestly celibacy.

About 20 years ago I knew a this girl she was very good looking and everyone married or not (including me) noticed her and she liked being noticed. One day to my surprise she approached me asking my opinion about a married man she was interested in.

When someone asks you advice about dating a married man by definition the argument “He’s a married man!” isn’t going to cut it. So I pointed out that if he was willing to be disloyal to the mother of his kids with her, what will stop him from being disloyal to you once he finds someone he finds hotter? That was an argument she understood. So lets ask the question:

If a priest is ready to break his vows on one thing what makes anyone think that he won’t be willing to break them on another?

As for married priests I actually don’t care which way the church goes on it. We currently have some married priests due to protest conversions It’s not a piece of unchanging dogma but as the father of a family the clash between family and church would be huge and I haven’t figured out how priests managed to do everything they need to already.

It’s a phony argument

Posted: May 13, 2009 by datechguy in catholic
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The Orthometer via the Curt Jester cuts though the nonsense concerning the Fr. Cutie scandal:

He is unapologetic about it. He only regrets causing people pain, not violating his promises, not committing the mortal sin of adultery (the woman is evidently a divorcee). He is so unrepentant that he went on national TV where he said that celibacy is good, but it should be optional for priest. (And the man caught in adultery said, “Marital fidelity is a beautiful thing, but it should be optional.”)

Fr. Richtsteig then hits another 3:

If you want to know what I think about priests “falling in love” and leaving, read this. Said briefly, it is the equivalent of a married man falling in lust with another woman and leaving his family because he can’t control his hormones. Human beings are rational animals not just animals. Yes, we have feelings, but we use our mind and will to discern which are in accord with God’s will and should be acted upon.

I am also not much interested in ‘dialoguing’ with those include Cutie who want to use this challenge the Church’s apostolic teaching on celibacy. One does not need to be sexually active and/or married to lead a normal life or be free from loneliness. No one ever died or became ill from not having sex. If you think optional celibacy is the or a panacea for problem clergy, take a long hard look at Orthodox, Protestant, or Jewish clergy.

We all struggle with our own temptations, I know I do and the Curt Jester has solid advice on it:

He said that he had been under spiritual direction since he was tempted against celibacy and that this is something he struggled with. Too bad he did not take this temptation more seriously and worked to avoid situations where he would be tempted. Becoming a minor celebrity and media personality and being nicknamed “Father Oprah” was probably not the most prudent course if you are particularly tempted in this manner. We should flee from those situations where we know we are easily tempted.(emphasis mine)

Not doing so is like eating food that you know you are allergic to.

The Anchoress gets the last word.

Posted: May 13, 2009 by datechguy in catholic, opinion/news
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Like Mika I’m starting to get Miss Californiaed out but the Anchoress makes a point that is worth quoting:

Let this be a lesson to young ladies everywhere, but especially young ladies who profess Christ; if you’re going to take off your top for a camera, be prepared (sooner or later) to have to answer for it, both in this world, and the next. But in this world, the chances are you will have to defend your nudity against the jeers, sneers and fake prudery of those “open-minded” folks who would never, for an instant, tolerate anyone telling them what they should or should not do with their own bodies, but will crucify you for the choices you made with your own. You’ll have to answer for it because when you profess yourself a Christian, you choose exile, and you will be held to a different standard, entirely, than the world’s.

And that is not a bad thing, but you girls must think about that.

In the next world, of course, you’ll have to answer to Christ, himself, who is much more merciful than the rest of us. He will likely ask you why you threw your pearls before swine.

He may gently ask you if you realized at the time that your actions could lead others into sin, by helping them to treat another human being (you) as a “thing”.

And I can tell you from personal experience: that is one awful question to have to contemplate and answer.

This is the cellphone internet business squared.

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