Posts Tagged ‘abortion’

I haven’t written as much about the Planned Parenthood protests lately although they have continued unabated every day except for the day of the last storm.

Friday 3/5 protest. Photo courtesy Ted Turner and used with Permission

More interesting that that was an outburst at the last city counsel meeting by Ward 4 counselor Kevin Starr:

“I will not tolerate those morals being pushed on me and these members of the Council,” Starr said. “That American flag stands for something up there, and there’s no place for those discussions to take place in here.”

Starr said in the future, he hoped that people would stay on topic, and “keep their personal beliefs to themselves.”

It reminded me very much of the type of thing people used to say about Abolitionists pre-civil war. A local protestant Pastor was not impressed:

The Rev. Thomas Hughes, pastor of New Creation Community Church on Water Street, wants Ward 4 City Councilor Kevin Starr to apologize for what Hughes called “inappropriate” and “disrespectful” remarks about pro-life advocates who opposed Planned Parenthood’s proposal to open on Main Street.

“I’m asking not only as a pastor myself, but as a member of the community, for (Starr) to offer an apology,” Hughes said. “I’m hoping he’ll come forth and offer an apology to his constituents, and our city.”

I congratulate Mr. Starr. I’ve been trying to enlist the help of protestant pastors to our cause with little success for weeks, he managed to get them energized with just a few words.

I would suggest when he starts talking about the American Flag he remembers the words of John Adams, you know the founding father who WROTE the Massachusetts constitution…

We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other.

Have these guys EVER read history? I would suggest he reads Hart’s spectacular American History as written by contemporaries. My amazon review of Vol 1 here. He will get an education of what the founders and the actual people thought of the subject.

…from the daily beast today?

Why Yes, a certain Hat and pearl wearing rule 5 shattering lady can, her final conclusion?

Linda Hirshman is right up there with Frank Rich in her insightful insightfulness.

That’s gonna leave a mark. If there is anything I would add it is the obsession on the pro life credentials. It is the same obsession that I saw on Morning Joe today, an attempt to marginalize people due to their unwillingness to make others feel comfortable about killing their inconvenient children.

Yes that is very blunt, but hey sometimes it is necessary to be blunt.

This whole article is Palin Derangement Syndrome by Proxy.

This should be interesting.

“We would have won a primary”…”the notion that liberals would have rejected me is wrong.”

Joe: “Why did the establishment want to beat you up.”

Harold: “At the end of the day I’m a democrat and the last thing I want to see is the seat going republican…this seat could decide the senate…if you can’t hold Massachusetts…” blah blah blah.

He isn’t answering the questions. Joe puts it succinctly, the party is painting him as a right wing nut, but then again playing games with his “evolving” gay marriage position to tailor it to New York. Apparently it is no longer “Gay Marriage” it is “Marriage equality”. When you start changing the names of things that means you can’t win the argument otherwise.

Joe goes about how insane it is to care about the abortion issue. this speech could have been made about the Slavery Issue in 1850. Why should we obsess about Slavery when people are hurting about the Tariff?

The Nation’s representative now says it’s about Racism, of course. Morning Joe has become a full employment program for people from the Nation magazine. They might be nice people but they are so far left that they would never be out there otherwise. This is a bone to their base far left Niche market.

Abortion is again being painted as “reproductive rights”. Again sanitizing things.

The reason why Abortion is such an issue because it is a basic issue of right vs wrong and evil vs good. People may not like to hear it, but that’s the way it is.

The idea that we should “divide” ourselves we should put aside social issues, religious issues and make them not a part of ourselves. That is not the way humans are, and if a person does do that they become well false to themselves.

Joe: “If you are prolife and a democrat in NY you can’t win” and of course if you are a republican in Massachusetts you can’t win Ted Kennedy’s seat.

Isn’t this the same argument that we’ve heard over and over again here that has been proven wrong over and over again? When conservatism fights it tends to win or inspire.

Ford’s bottom line is any primary winner would be too bloodied to win. Personally I’m glad he pulled out. I thought the move to NY was even more cynical than Hillery Clinton’s. I think he let his position on Morning Joe go to his head and make him think he could win. I think he really need to look in the mirror and examine himself and decide what he wants to do personally and what he wants to achieve.

This entire conversation paints a false choice. There are plenty of leaders out there who are pro-life and against gay marriage who are leaders and good ones. To pretend that people don’t want leaders is ridiculous, but it is the MSM that constantly paints people who disagree with their liberal outlook as kooks, who can’t lead.

That abortion love-in this morning was disgusting, I don’t know how many people sitting there were Catholic but if any were and kept silent they ought to be ashamed and more importantly worried.

If Joe and company want to see what leadership is I suggest they broadcast from one of the April 15th tea parties and see what kind of leaders the average people bring up on their own. It was leadership enough to stop an administration with Supermajorities in both houses.

Update: The Lonely conservative is disappointed.

Anti-theist or not, if there is a person on the net who needs prayers more, I can’t think of them.

Note the repetitive use of the phrase “I don’t want” in her post.

There are a lot of really nasty snarky things running through my head right now, but leaving that all aside for a sec consider:

Angie’s soul is just as valuable in the eyes of God as the soul of the child she decided she “didn’t want”. It is too late to save the life of her child but Angie is still precious in the sight of God. She says she doesn’t want to die, but death is inevitable for all who live, I’m going to die, she’s going to die, if you are reading this I guarantee you are going to die too.

Life is full of choices. I maintain that her choice in this matter was as horrible as any slave-owners but it is now a choice in her past that she will live with and deal with forever.

I think it would be a fine thing instead of condemning her that we choose to pray for her. Lets get together and do so. If you are a Catholic like myself I would suggest dedicating the Sorrowful Mysteries of the Rosary to her for a week or more. If you follow another denomination than use any prayer you find appropriate.

Anger and hatred however righteous in this case will achieve very little, but prayer and compassion might. Let’s try it. If God thinks that Angie’s soul is worth the effort, who are we to say otherwise?

Via Glenn.

Oddly enough I usually start my prayers way before this time of day. I haven’t done them yet. I guess I know why now, so I could offer them for her.

update: Adrienne (who I have not given nearly enough attention to lately) links and agrees, thanks muchly.