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Morning Joe Cho Abortion position? What Abortion position?

Posted: November 9, 2009 by datechguy in catholic, internet/free speech, opinion/news
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Morning Joe is talking about Anh Cho talking about his district and stressing it over and over again.

Not a word about his position on Abortion or the fact that without the Stupak amendment he wouldn’t support it.

I suspect the game plan is to stress the district and keep Cho off the air for fear that he will bring up the Abortion business.

Interesting to note that Vanden huevel of the nation declined to say if she would support the bill in its current form if it comes to a final vote. Maybe we should ask her about the Berlin wall business?

Update: I second Quin Hillyer:

Ronald Reagan understood that sometimes local issues prevail. He played the game brilliantly. Remember that to pass one of his big initiatives — either the Reagan-Kemp-Roth tax cut or the major Gramm-Latta spending cuts, I can’t remember which — it was Reagan’s willingness to horse-trade that led Democratic then-Rep. John Breaux of Louisiana to boast about some protection he got for the sugar cane industry. Asked if his vote had been for sale, Breaux cracked: “No, of course it isn’t for sale, but it is for rent!”

What Cao did was nowhere near as cynical as that; but conservatives loved it when Breaux did it, because it brought him to Reagan’s side on a key vote.

But again, ALL ALONG, for months, Cao had said his line in the sand was abortion financing, and openly said he would likely vote for a bill that blocked such financing. In short, he did the honorable thing by saying where he stood and sticking with it. No, of course I don’t like his vote. But give the man a break: He’s an honorable, incredibly hard-working, inspirational young representative who is doing his darnedest to do a good job in a district ordinarily incredibly hostile to conservatives and Republicans of all stripes.

Cho and Dede are night and day. By all means lets fight and kill the bill if we can but I’ll take any victory on Abortion that I can get. Cho is one of the reasons we have that victory.

Q: What does the Stupak amendment and Death Panels have in common?

Posted: November 8, 2009 by datechguy in opinion/news
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A: Both involved changes in Obamacare that proponents of the bill insisted didn’t exist in the first place.

You might remember back when Sarah Palin brought up death panels in the bill she was (and still is) attacked for it, yet the bill in the Senate had the relevant language pulled from it to remove the death panels that didn’t exist.

Now comes the Stupak Amendment and Palin has this to say:

All of us who value the sanctity of life are grateful for the success of the pro-life majority in the House this evening in its battle against federal funding of abortion in this bill, but it’s ironic because we were promised that abortion wasn’t covered in the bill to begin with. Our healthy distrust of these government leaders made us look deeper into the bill because unfortunately we knew better than to trust what they were saying. The victory tonight to amend the bill and eliminate that federal funding for abortion was great – because abortion is not health care. Now we can only hope that Rep. Stupak’s amendment will hold in the final bill, though the Democratic leadership has already refused to promise that it won’t be scrapped later.

And she doesn’t stop there:

We had been told there were no “death panels” in the bill either. But look closely at the provision mandating bureaucratic panels that will be calling the shots regarding who will receive government health care.

Look closely at provisions addressing illegal aliens’ health care coverage too.

Reality tends to trump things.

Ny-23 the Healthcare Vote and God’s Mysterious ways

Posted: November 8, 2009 by datechguy in catholic, opinion/news
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In case my conservative friends still haven’t gotten it let me say one more time. I dislike this healthcare bill and believe it should be defeated.

But lets look at something interesting:

One month ago it looked like Dede the angrysmug would be elected to congress. She would be the one republican vote for this bill. She would be lionized by the media and held up as an example of moderation and bi-partisianship. She would be interviewed on every MSM outlet and held up as an example saying that Republicans need to moderate on Abortion and Gay Marriage. For a year this would be shoved down our throats.

But by the efforts of Doug Hoffman, Sarah Palin and conservatives all over the country. Dede was dropped like a bad habit and may even lose her position in the NY Republican delegation.

Although Hoffman was not elected he was just about the only republican/conservative who wasn’t on Tuesday. The democrat who defeated him Bill Owens managed to compromise himself with the voters who elected him in under 24 hours (Hoffman 2010). The president was desperate for a victory and more importantly needed one NOW! As time passed the 2010 election would be coming closer and the vote would be more painful and costly for blue dog democrats.

Now comes Joseph Cao the man who replaced William (Refrigerator) Jefferson. His district is about as democratic as you can get and he squeaked through with 49% to win. The bill is very popular there but Cao wasn’t buying and I wrote about this in August:

You know that in a district where there hasn’t been a republican congressman since 1890 and is 64% black it might be politically necessary for a newly elected republican to support the president on some key issues. Even if Abortion is paid for in it..

But Don Surber reports that when congressman Anh Cao says he is a Catholic, unlike say a John Kerry or a Nancy Pelosi he means it:

Cho bluntly stated that he would rather lose his seat than to vote for a healthcare bill that supports abortion.

Obama needed a win and wanted at least one republican so places like Think Progress could have headlines like this:

House Passes Historic, Bipartisan Health Reform Legislation

So comes the Stupak amendment and the vote for it. ONE QUARTER of the democratic caucus votes for the pro-life amendment, Pro-Abortion democrats hold their nose and vote for the final bill anyway.

Now the media has a dilemma: There is a Republican who voted for the bill. He is the first Vietnamese congressman, he has a great story and now he has been the vote for healthcare, one would expect that he would be lionized all over the place…

…however he is a DEVOUT Catholic and only was willing to vote for the bill because the Abortion provision was included and has made it clear that re-election campaign if the Abortion language goes so will he.

What is the MSM to do? Can they lionize an anti-abortion republican? Can they praise him on the talk shows? Will Obey, Maddow, the today show, the view and all the others dare to push him and praise a believing catholic who practices what he preaches?

If they don’t then they lose their bi-partisan meme if they do then they lionize faith. I think they will ignore him, I think in the end the media is so far left that even supporting Obama and this bill is not enough for them to go against their sacrament.

God works in mysterious ways, but I don’t see this as very mysterious. Bills come and go, parties rise and fall but Sin is Sin and God is constant.

I still hope the bill will fail but I’m going to enjoy watching the media squirm over the next two days over Cao.

Have the Democrats learned how to count?

Posted: November 8, 2009 by datechguy in catholic, opinion/news
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As I’ve already said the passage of the Health Care bill is a really bad idea, if the Senate plays along this will be disastrous for the country.

As any pro-life person can tell you however there was one bright shining star of a moment when over 60 democrats voted for a Pro-Life amendment that restricts federal funds for abortion through this bill.

That is nearly a quarter of the democratic caucus voting on a purely Pro Life measure.

The simple fact is the country has slowly become more pro-life over time, this is not a big surprise as the people who are most likely to support abortion have been demographically outperformed by those of us who don’t.

In addition Planned parenthood has disposed of millions of their voters with their parents consent. (Given the choice of losing elections or having those kids alive there is no contest. Give me live people!)

Add to this an increasing Central and south American Catholic presence in the land and the numbers do not look good for abortion.

I’ve said and I maintain that Abortion is a sacrament of the left but ironically it is the need of president Obama to get a bill, ANY BILL passed that forced democrats to make this deal.

If the democratic party learns this lesson and becomes if not a pro-life party but a party that embraces pro-life candidates it could become a paradigm shift. Abortion is the single biggest issue for religious people, particularly Catholics.

The very liberal base will be furious but where else will they go?

Americans should be scared, VERY scared over the passage of Obama care, but republicans should be scared VERY scared over this development.

Me I’m a Republican over a lot more than Abortion but I’ll take the hit to my party if it helps prevent an intrinsic evil. No single issue is more a question of good and evil than abortion and if the democrats are willing to come down on the side of good, I’ll be very happy.

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