Posts Tagged ‘afghanistan’

Wow! talk about turning the “run away” caucus on the defensive

Posted: July 29, 2010 by datechguy in Afghanistan war, opinion/news
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Over and over we have seen on Morning Joe we have seen the people on set in unison (Ari Fletcher the notable exception) go after the Afghanistan war as un-winnable as not in our interest. Richard Stengel is stressing that if we go, it will be people like the woman on Time’s cover that will suffer.

It is an important point to be made.

That time magazine cover (not available online yet) should be put up every time the debate on the war takes place.

Update: That isn’t even touching on the lives of the people who supported us that are already in danger thanks to the Wikileaks and the treasonous bastard(s) who fed them info.

Update 2: The cover is now up:

The cost of running away

Time’s write up is here.

Update 3: Sissy Willis links in a first rate post. That’s almost as good as a new Dr. Who adventure from Rich’s Comic Blog.

What is this nobody knows what “Victory” in Afghanistan is?

Posted: July 28, 2010 by datechguy in Afghanistan war, opinion/news, war
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Why is this so confusing? Let me answer you:

1. Preventing Afghanistan from being used as a forward base for terror.

2. Neutralizing the Taliban as an effective fighting force.

Why is it so hard to understand that?

The Morning Joe crew has one good point. You don’t win a war simply by throwing more troops at it you win a war by having a smart stratagy to win it and the right leaders and tactics to do so.

Anybody who thinks the US military can’t win in Afghanistan is an idiot, but it’s more than that. The president in one of he few really good moves has put Petraeus in charge over there. There reason you see the Wikileaks and the push against the Afghan war now just as the strategy has changed is not because the left is afraid of losing this war, its because the left is afraid we will win it.

Expect more of this meme, in their minds the battle cry is “Stop Petraeus before he wins again!”

Joe Raises a great point about Pakistan

Posted: July 26, 2010 by datechguy in Afghanistan war, opinion/news, war
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In a phone call to Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough makes a critical point on Pakistan; that of course they are our enemy and have been from the start.

Does anyone remember the speech that Musharraf made at the start of the Afghan war besides me? As I recall (and correct me if I’m wrong) In that speech he compared his actions in corporation with the Bush administration to Mohammad’s treaty with the Jews and stressed he was doing what he was about to do for the survival of his country.

Basically at a time when practically the entire country was looking for blood Bush laid down the law and Musharraf caved, but at the same time we breathed a sigh of relief as we wanted no part of a war with a Nuclear Pakistan if it could be avoided.

As soon as they (Pakistan) determined that we were not going to hit them, they quickly resumed their role as quiet friends of Islamic terror in general and the Taliban in particular.

Since there is absolutely of us challenging Pakistan in a way they would find credible (particularly with this administration) this will continue with impunity until and unless there is a cost to those in power greater than the domestic risk of supporting us.

Update: Hate to admit it but Zbigniew Brzezinski is absolutely right, I’m being simplistic on Pakistan, there are multiple sides within the government and it is very complicated. We do have to be very careful here.

Gee in the middle of a War a group chooses to release…

Posted: July 26, 2010 by datechguy in internet/free speech, war
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…a bunch of classified documents in the hopes of derailing the effort.

So on Morning Joe we have a panel of people all against the war commenting on it. (In fairness the entire regular panel is against the war anyway so they would have to have a guest on to defend it.) Is there outrage, is there anger and this kind of leak? Nah.

They are less excited about it then you would expect, they say it is info we mostly already know, no big surprises. Harold Ford makes the correct observation that war is generally not clean and easy and the administration needs to explain that to the public. Barnicle points out that “this is Bush info” is not going to fly.

Will anyone be prosecuted for this? Unlikely. That would depress the administration’s base that is already depressed going into a midterm. They may or may not care about Afghanistan but they sure care if it is lost on their watch.

You can be sure about one thing, you will see none of the media outrage that you did over the Palme Affair.

Bottom line, this is dishonorable act by people who don’t understand the meaning of the word and care less for the well being of the troops and the country than they do about their agenda. They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent that the law allows. This will take place sometime after the Beatles reunite by using Voodoo to revive zombified remains of George and John.

Memeorandum thread here

Update: Stacy links, thanks

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