Posts Tagged ‘arabs’

Government advocate: One thousand five hundred and sixteen casualties with one thousand six hundred and fifty bullets.
Gen. Dyer: My intention was to inflict a lesson that would have an impact throughout all India.

Gandhi 1982

Monday Morning on Special Report with Brett Baier a representative of the Palestinians claimed in US television that Israel was deliberately targeting Palestinian civilians.

If you are ignorant enough you can look at the 500 dead (as of this writing) in Gaza you might fall for this line, but I’d like to introduce you to a witness who can without question prove the falsehood of this claim: The late General Reginald Dwyer.

95 years ago on April 13th 1919 General Dwyer led a contingent of about 90 men to Jallianwala Bagh where there was a large crowd of Indians some for protest and some for a local fair.

After deploying 50 of his men armed with bolt action Lee Enfield Rifles (First introduced in 1895) he opened fire on the crowd.  After expending aprox 1650 rounds his troops managed to inflict over 1500 casualties on the crowd with between 379 & 1000 dead depending on whose figures you believe.

Dyer never for one moment denied that he was deliberately targeting unarmed civilians, in fact Dyer actually had armored cars armed with machine guns but he was unable to bring them to bear. At the official inquiry he bluntly stated publicly that had he been able to deploy them he would have used them.

The scene was vividly portrayed in the 1982 movie Gandhi

This event is known as the Amritsar or the Jallianwala Bagh massacre.  It was a key moment in the Indian Independence movement.

What does this have to do with Gaza? Consider.

General Dwyer had 50 armed men, using 19th century bolt-action rifles and in only 15 minutes of deliberately targeting a civilian population inflicted 1500 casualties.

Israel has called up 40,000 men, they have deployed, jets, heavy artillery, tanks and all the weapons that a modern experienced 21st century army has at its disposal. For five days (as of this writing on Monday night) they have been fighting directly in Gaza and for several days before this, Israel was launching air and artillery strikes on Gaza.

Furthermore they are operating in an area where 1.8 million people live in an area of 139 square miles. A density of over 13,000 people per square mile.

So consider, if we are to believe the Arabs who are claiming on twitter, Facebook , in the Arab media and in front of every western camera that is put in front of them that Israel is deliberately targeting Palestinian civilians since day 1 , we have to conclude that the Israeli Army and Air Force, given a full week, are less efficient killers than 50 British soldiers armed with bolt-action rifles, introduced when Grover Cleveland was President of the United States, were in 15 minutes.

General Dyer, the dead of Amritsar and simple logic call such claims a nonsensical lie.

If however you still maintain the Palestinian/Arab line for anything other than political or social reasons I suggest installing a high quality e-mail filter because hundreds of Nigerian e-mail scammers are simply dying to meet you.

Some things are just so ridiculous on their face that you can’t believe a prominent journalist actually said it:

“They [Israel] haven’t had a car bombing in two and a half years and the sad truth, really, is that the wall with the West Bank has actually worked.

Am I to understand that it is a regrettable thing that the wall to the west has prevented large amounts of Jews from living in fear and dying in violent slaughter? Time magazine has more:

Now observing 2½ years without a single suicide bombing on their territory, with the economy robust and with souls a trifle weary of having to handle big elemental thoughts, the Israeli public prefers to explore such satisfactions as might be available from the private sphere, in a land first imagined as a utopia. “Listen to me,” says Eli Bengozi, born in Soviet Georgia and for 40 years an Israeli. “Peace? Forget about it. They’ll never have peace. Remember Clinton gave 99% to Arafat, and instead of them fighting for 1%, what? Intifadeh.”

Does it occur to anyone that the wall actually provided peace. The Jews aren’t (and never were) interested in killing “Palestinians”, and thanks to the wall the “Palestinians” who apparently still want to kill Jews instead of you know having a life, can’t get to them.

As long as Arabs in general and “Palestinians” in particular consider dead Jews one of their favorite things you can’t have official peace, but if Palestinians can’t kill Jews, you will have defacto peace which apparently offends some on the left to no end.

The “Palestinians” elites hate it too, because with even defacto peace comes the responsibility to govern, and perhaps the reduction of the international welfare that has allowed the PLO leadership to line their pockets while ignoring their people for years.

Bottom line as long as “Palestinians” areas are Judenrein they are not interested in peace and we should stop pretending they are.

Israel attacked from the north

Posted: August 3, 2010 by datechguy in opinion/news, war
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How many times do we have to read this story before the world get it though their heads what is going on in Israel?

Good thing we have that brave UN to prevent the Lebanese army from attacking Jews in Israel. Israellycool makes a good point:

What is not clear is whether the Lebanese soldier picture actually fired the RPG, but it is nonetheless problematic that UNIFIL would just happen to be “hanging out” with the Lebanese soldiers during the clashes with Israel.

Or even worse: shielding them.

No comment yet from Helen Thomas or Octavia Nasr.

This was done in broad daylight with plenty of witnesses that means it was done for a reason. Was it to prove Israeli response, to keep Jewish eyes elsewhere?

Time will tell.

Memeorandum thread here

My answer to Dave on Israel…

Posted: August 1, 2010 by datechguy in opinion/news
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One of my most prolific commentators lately is a liberal fellow named David W. Walters. He has been kind enough to give me his attention and critiques on the issue and I’m very pleased to have him. After all if your positions are worth anything they can stand up under fire. Anyways Today he left the following comment concerning the blog redesign (Thumbs up, thanks) and Israel: to wit:

-Your blog looks better…..
But Israel has lost my support and is loosing the support of more Americans as they continue to occupy Palestinian territory and brutalize civilians. Yes, I abhor terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians. But those actions are the result of Palestinian rage against Israel. If Israel is really interested in a peaceful settlement with Palestinians, they have to stop taking land that isn’t theirs by bulldozing people’s homes and cutting off water supplies. That just isn’t civilized.

I wrote a very long response that really should be a post so I’m promoting it:

I have to disagree for several reasons:

First of all the first partition split the country into two parts, a Jewish and an Arab one. The “Palestinian” part was Jordan. However the Arabs decided they would rather kill off the Jews instead.

Secondly nobody even thought of a different Palestinian state until Israel conquered the west bank and Gaza. Egypt and Jordan could have made a “Palestinian” state any time they wanted to at that time, but didn’t.

Thirdly: Israel has over and over again given up land for peace and has not gotten peace for it.

Fourthly: Israel pulled out of Gaza fully leaving behind green houses and all kinds of infrastructure, never was the chance for an area to develop better, and yet the Arabs choose to use it as a rocket base to kill Jews.

Fifthly: In arab schools Jews are constantly taught that Jews are to be killed, remember the famous moment here in the US just this year. If you don’t want to bother clicking here is the key quote:

Horowitz …‘Okay, I’ll put it to you this way. I am a Jew. The head of Hizbollah has said that he hopes that we will gather in Israel so he doesn’t have to hunt us down globally. For or Against it?

MSA member: For it.

Or put in in short form. How can you tell the Arab position is bull. Because Arabs serve in the Israeli government and have the vote in Israel, while the Arab/Palestinian area are Judenrein.

When a Jew can live as safely in an Arab area as an Arab can live in Israel, then we’ll talk.

Update: Totten provides a current sixthly