Posts Tagged ‘honor’

… on his blog tonight lgf officially jumps the shark.

Just for fun lets take a look at how long it’s been since Charles hit Hugo Chavez. The last hit is April of this year. Ol’ Hugo hasn’t done one odd thing since then, no sir.

Now lets do the same search for Sarah Palin. Take a look at the hits (to be fair there are some defenses there too) but make the comparison.

Nope Charles hasn’t changed, not one bit and we on the right are just delusional to say so.

I predict that not only will Charles become a darling of the left, but he will at some time before or when her books comes out he will be invited on MSNBC to talk about the “White Supremacist” connection to the governor. I personally would be shocked if MSNBC doesn’t pick this up sometime before the week is out.

Take care Charles. Good luck convincing your new friends that Israel is worth defending, Afghanistan is a war worth fighting, the Mohammad Cartoons are worth printing and Iran shouldn’t have the bomb.

I would have thrown in the religion of peace stuff too but for some reason you haven’t used that term since April 6th. In fact you used the term only 3 times this year so far. In 2008 it was 36 times. In 2007 it was 165 times.

Has radical Islam become proportionately less violent, have they decided to treat women better or stop killing gays or are not preaching holy war or the death of people like Ayaan Hirsi Ali? Or is there another reason? Rather than speculate as others have, I’m asking directly.

WHY?

Got a comment on an old post from a Lizzardoid who disagreed with me his conclusion:

What’s really happening here is the right is in la la land right now. CJ is merely the messenger. I’ve voted Red my whole life and I’m as conservative as anybody: the Right has serious problems right now. Attacking CJ is shooting the messenger.

He’s certainly welcome to his opinion (read his whole comment). I wrote him a long response and as there as been little action on the McCain/Johnson front I figured it would be a good promotion to explain my position to late comers to the debate. I won’t blockquote it since they are my words just promoted:

…I have to disagree with you on that one. My initial comment on the Rush issue was deleted when I was banned but it certainly didn’t rise to the level you were describing, in fact I didn’t know I was banned until I tried to put up my follow-up comment and found myself logged out.

Also if Charles was simply holding the right to the same standard he does to the left why the particular timing? I would point you to my follow up posts here and here concerning timing and Irony.

As I’ve said, I’ve never met or talked to Charles, he might be a very nice guy. I’m more than pleased to have him as an ally even now on both Israel and the War on Terror. I would love to have him sign my statement of common principles (you are welcome to do so too). I’ve defended him in the past and will agree with him when he is right.

But I think his current actions are due more to spite than anything else, that’s just my opinion. I saw his stuff and I talked to Robert Stacy McCain and given what I’ve seen and heard I’m going to have to take Robert’s side over his in fact I’m honor bound to do so.

Like the 20% who once approved of the president who now do not. The people who no longer support Charles didn’t suddenly become wrong or racist or nutjobs overnight. Rush didn’t go from Rush Limbaugh, Honorary Lizardoid to racist overnight either. The timing seems to suggest that once Beck hit him any ally of beck or once removed ally of Beck is to be suspect. It reminds me of an Aunt of mine who is rapidly running out of people she will talk to.

Something has changed and the logical conclusion is that it is Charles.

But you never know; I haven’t given up on him, I’ll tease him a bit but hey we all have our faults. If his attacks on the right get some liberals to take his posts on the war on terror seriously maybe it will work out in the end.

I’ll say a prayer for him and keep an eye open. When I see him willing to hit the left and Soros like he used to then I might change my mind but until then, I’ll remain in happy exile and just have to wish you all the best in your personal lives.

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Oh and Big Papa, you are welcome to comment here any time, and so is Charles. As for me ever going back to LGF if allowed; I owe it to Peg who stood up for me and was banned for it to not to even consider re-registering until and unless she is invited back.

As the bell for Round 7 rings Johnson using the VDH to set up what appears to be a solid defense:

Sorry to those who wrote me, but I can no more get on the anti-Johnson bandwagon than I could the birth certificate allegations about Obama

But alas the defense crumbles as Johnson refuses to link to the story defending him:

Thanks, Victor. But please follow this up, and take a look around at who you’re sharing web space with.

Or “thanks for defending me you person who associates with Racists.”

And that’s even before the Irony police were unleashed upon him

Meanwhile Robert Stacy opens with a right to the satire:

The FBI has already acknowledged that as many as 20 young men have disappeared from the Somali community in Minneapolis over the past two years, many believed to be recruited by people affiliated with the Islamic Flemish terrorist group, Al-Shabaab Vlaams Belang. . . .

Listen to Kejda Gjermani: Beware the Flemish Menace!

He then puts up a solid defense that if was used yesterday would have earned him a split in the scoring.

For decades now, the demographic approach of “white supremacists” (following the lead of Margaret Sanger) has been to promote efforts to suppress the birth rates of poor minorities — a campaign based on what more properly could be called fear than hate, but it doesn’t matter what you call it. Hate and fear are related emotions, both of which are contrary to my religion
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As many authors — among them Ben Wattenberg and Mark Steyn – have explained, the root of the West’s demographic crisis, crucially relevant to many public policy issues, is the collapse of the birth rate since the 1960s. The West has embraced what has been called a “Culture of Death.”

“A culture that no longer has a point of reference in God loses its soul and loses its way, becoming a culture of death.”
– John Paul II, Jan. 1, 2001

The consequences of this anti-life philosophy are predictable.

Nice defense but trying to butter up the judge by quoting the pope gotta watch out for that.

He then throws a feint to Kejda that hides a roundhouse from Cynthia Yockey

Johnson, in his post yesterday, is using the “waving the paper” technique that trial lawyers employ. To wit, wave a random piece of paper and claim it is damning evidence. If the witness does not demand to see it — and discover it is no such thing — a guilty one will then confirm the existence of the damning evidence by reacting to it. So Charles put up a bunch of links purporting to prove Stacy McCain is a racist — Stacy already explained they do no such thing on account of the fact that he is not, and never has been, a racist — so the trick didn’t produce a confession. However, the effect of the post on Stacy is to waste his time forcing him to reply. Plus, I suspect what Charles was really playing to is the court of public opinion, which will NOT investigate the truth of Charles’s “evidence” or read Stacy’s defense but will say, “Why, Charles lists so many links that he must be right.”

the whole thing is pretty heavy. And then comes the the block and counter on the Hanson thing:

Glenn Beck and Tea Party people are not loving Western Civilization in the “Right Way,” according to Charles Johnson. Nor are Geller, Spencer, Diana West, Richard Miniter, Jim Hoft, Baldilocks, Pajamas Media, Michelle Malkin, Rush Limbaugh, etc. As I said early on in this engagement, the extremist ideology which Johnson demands that all of us must accept is Charles Johnson supremacism.

Well, Professor Hanson, here I must draw the line. Nothing that might be gained by acceding to this insulting demand could compensate the dishonor involved in abandoning so many friends who have in the past two years suffered from the wickedness of Charles Johnson, whose superiority I refuse to acknowledge.

You shall not have other gods besides me. Exodus:20:3

It’s always a good idea to have God as your co-pilot. It’s even a better idea to butter up the Judge.

Charles makes an interesting counter, rather than attacking he keeps his previous links on the top to make them permanent. Clever in that it makes the accusations viable to any new user to plant them as “facts”. Also saves him the trouble of backing the stuff up.

Stacy stops the attempted Johnson rally cold. McCain wins 10-9. Scoring 68-64 McCain after 7.

Full disclosure, Robert Stacy called me today. It is the first time I’ve ever talked to him, I’ve never EVER met any prominent blogger socially, and the only ones I’ve talked to in non-social environments we’re HiWired podcast interviews.

We talked for nearly an hour and his post on the matter has only one minor error, the neighborhood is where my Grandfather had his barber shop, not where he lived. My sister lives in his old house and sleeps next to the room my mother was born in. The title of his post is a direct quote from me and I’m happy to stand behind it.

And yes I asked the question directly man to man, he answered man to man and I believe him. For me personally; the fight is over, but as a fair Judge I’ll do my best to score subsequent rounds as they take place fairly.

Secondly: Robert Stacy signed my Statement of Common principles, (and listed his corollary). Using the LGF e-mail system I sent Charles a copy of the statement and gave him permission to use it if he wished. I personally believe there is nothing in it he can’t agree with.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I would rather have Charles in our corner on the War on Terror than not, I would rather have Charles on the side of Israel than not. If we aren’t getting along the earth doesn’t shake, When in my opinion he defames Stacy he is acting dishonorably I expect Stacy to hit and keep hitting him for it…

..but the guys trying to kill all of us are going to be happy to kill any of us. This is a vital truth. As Americans I expect all of us are going to do our best to keep ANY of us from suffering that fate.

If our foes attempt to harm any of us from Glenn Reynolds to Jane Hamsher it’s an attack on all of us. If they succeed in hurting any of us it s a matter to be avenged.

…and here I thought it was over after the ref checked the corner to see if Johnson was going to come out for a 6th Johnson shows he still has offense left in the tank.

Robert Stacy starts strong as he has continued to snark at Charles with jab after jab after jab both at his own site and at Hotair with this post and the fans are starting to cheer for him.

After rounds of swinging at others Johnson finally counters with a flurry of lefts (southern poverty law center) which do little damage and some heavy rights Particularly Bill White and overthrow.com (and those guys are Nazis, the real thing!)

The White & overthrow swing rope a dope and is blocked since he takes the McCain quote is totally out of context and Chucky doesn’t link to the actual post that would reveal it so. links but he gets one good punch in with the cache page on Race and teenage pregnancy.

Here it lands. Reading the article the stats themselves are not in dispute and demonstrated what “great society” managed to do in just a few decades to the black family when the Klan failed to do it with a century of trying. The tone of the article is really bad. Teen pregnancy is bad because of the general lack of fathers and the effect on family. The effect on demographics is irrelevant. It’s the lack of fathers and stable families that are the problem. And the focus on White demographics misses the point in the same way the BNP missed the point that John Rhys Davis made about radical Islam.

That one is a blow and Stacy’s initial counter is light:

Pay close attention, idiots: Just because I haven’t bothered to deny something doesn’t mean it’s true. The burden of proof is on the accuser, and good luck proving some of the things you have so flatly asserted. There are facts. And there are witnesses.

Johnson plays to the judges with his personal White story and it’s just as disgusting as he says it is. Too bad it has nothing to do with McCain.

Until the counter comes Johnson’s counter gives him his strongest round since the 1st and he even manages to lay a glove or two on Obama to over Israel and get a blogger in England who isn’t Andrew Sullivan to back him up.

Johnson gets the round 10-9 Current Score 58-55 McCain after 6.

Update: I might have ended the round too Hasty Johnson Fires with Alan Colmes interview and only manages to establish the name that Robert Stacy posted under. If that’s being destroyed then the fights like a girl argument is looking better and better.

And we are forced to conclude that the any person who posts at a doctor who site as “Supreme Dalek” harbors the ambition to exterminate all life forms and rule the universe.

McCain’s counter is for a previous attack and is effective. No change in scoring and plenty of fight left to go.

Totally unrelated it’s very odd to hear a voice for the first time of someone you have corresponded via e-mail and comments for a time.. It never matches the one in your head.