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I’m sure Martin Luther would be thrilled…

Posted: August 21, 2009 by datechguy in catholic
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…with the decision to allow gay clergy to no longer be celibate in the Lutheran Church.

The nation’s largest Lutheran denomination took openly gay clergy more fully into its fold Friday, as leaders of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America voted to lift a ban that prohibited sexually active gay and lesbian people from serving as ministers.

Under the new policy, individual ELCA congregations will be allowed to hire homosexuals as clergy as long as they are in a committed relationships. Until now, gays and lesbians had to remain celibate to serve as clergy.

Hey this was just what he was envisioning when he broke away from us Roman Catholics all those centuries ago starting the reformation and all that.

So now the Lutherans have endorsed specific biblical sin among clergy I say good luck to you guys.

Meanwhile if you are a Lutheran who actually takes Christianity seriously that old Roman Catholic Church that Martin decided wasn’t good enough before is still there.

We’d be pleased to welcome you in.

Oh and the American Papist notes another one of those coincidences that my friend Brian insists means nothing:

To be clear, it was not a “possible tornado,” it was an actual tornado. Local blogger Orate Fratres has pictures of the toppled steeple , and describes the event as one of those “things that make you go hmmm…”.

I mean, I don’t remember the Council of Trent being plagued by local meteorological disasters.

Yup just another coincidence.

Lutheran blog Not alone is not happy

When people say that they will agree to disagree, what they are saying is that they do not count these matters as important enough to press to the point that the other person is left with only two possible responses: either to abandon the belief that has been erroneously held and to come into agreement with the truth; or to reject what the other person believes and to reject the person who presses it as absolute truth.

This kind of conviction regarding what is believed is completely abandoned when people agree to disagree. Such an agreement is an agreement that the areas of disagreement really do not matter beyond being the expression of one’s personal opinion. Therefore the two parties can continue to be friends in the agreement that these matters are not of any real importance. They have agreed that there is nothing so important as to argue to the point of absolute agreement, and so they absolutely agree that nothing is to be absolutely rejected.

I, for one, do not agree.

I’ve looked at 20 or more different Lutheran blogs and this is the only one that seems to have even noticed the conference let alone the ruling.

I’ll check some more after supper.

UPDATE this post is now huge so I’ll add the More button here. (more…)

How about that the New York Times says Marx is back in vogue.

Thanks to globalism’s discontents and the financial crisis that has spread across the planet, Karl Marx and his analysis of capitalism’s dark, wormy side are back in vogue. But what of Friedrich Engels, Marx’s best friend and closest ally, the co-author of “The Communist Manifesto” and the man who selflessly supported Marx while he wrote “Das Kapital”?

Oh really? Lets steal some stats from this post taken from Amazon.com. After all I’m a top 1000 reviewer* there so that’s a good reference point:

Lets start with a non conservative book UPDATE: (in fairness Mr. Scarborough would disagree with my characterization so lets call it “conservative lite”) by Joe Scarborough.

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #28,738 in Books

How about Mark Levin’s Liberty and Tyranny?

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #31 in Books

That’s after 5 months, how about Dick Morris’ Catastrophe?

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #47 in Books

How about Michelle’s Culture of Corruption?

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #14 in Books

Her book is a month old, and finally how about Glenn Beck’ Common Sense?

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #9 in Books

Those figures are all from yesterday, so lets see how they compare with Marx and some fellow travelers. Lets start with Das Kapital:

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #301,437 in Books

Well that’s an expensive edition, lets try something else, how about The Communist Manifesto and Other Revolutionary Writings: Marx, Marat, Paine, Mao Tse-Tung, Gandhi and Others (Dover Thrift Editions) (Paperback) Hey that’s got a bunch of people and it’s in paperback too and a Thrift edition that must be selling right?

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #76,448 in Books

Hey Marxism isn’t just Marx, lets try Essential Works of Lenin: “What Is to Be Done?” and Other Writings (Paperback).

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #180,943 in Books

Well how about Trosky? Let’s try his book Marxism and Terrorism (Paperback)

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #590,286 in Books

Well lets take a look at the actual book the New York Times was talking about; Marx’s General by Tristram Hunt, brand new book , favorablly reviewed by the times and Marxism is hot surely it can compete with all these guys who can’t stand Marx and Marxism? Can’t it?:

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #1,317 in Books

Guess not.

Hey lets give Marx fans one more shot. How about a classic, like Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United states. After all it’s back to school and a ton of colleges are assigning it as required reading I’m sure it can crack the top 100 or maybe the top 150?

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #171 in Books

Nope.

Michelle Malkin who is #1 on the Times bestseller list again links to human events which says:

Book readers seem to care less and less about what the newspaper thinks of a particular book, he says.

“You can do very well without the imprimatur of the New York Times,” he says. “The dirty little secret is that the Times doesn’t matter anymore, or it matters less and less. Many other outlets beat the Times to the stories and provide much fuller coverage.”

A chapter in Harry Stein’s new book, I Can’t Believe I’m Sitting Next to a Republican, is dedicated to the culture wars flaring within the publishing industry. Republican recalls how mainstream publishing houses turned down future smashes like Bernard Goldberg’s Bias simply because they couldn’t relate to its themes — or preferred not to even try.

I guess NYT must stand for Not (worth) Your Time.

*Ok and I admit it I’m 746 under the old system and only 1010 under the new system but I’m working on it, can I help it if Doctor Who Audios are a niche market?

Last week I wrote an e-mail to Sargento Cheese concerning their boycott of Glenn Beck:

Since you have decided to publicly to take a side it behooves me to do the same. The quality of your product not withstanding I find myself compelled to find another cheese maker who can concentrate on producing their product rather than repressing speech.

Yesterday I went to the Supermarket. Sargento Cheese was on sale, 20% off the normal price.

I bought Kraft.

Make of that what you will.

Update: Jonah notices an oddity.

The reason why I don’t liveblog Morning Joe anymore is stuff like this.

Republican Joe Scarborough purported to have his finger on the pulse of Republicans across the country today when he declared that they were uniformly rejecting Sarah Palin and her “hard, hard, hard right” conservative views.

Conservatives for Palin elaborates:

The Democratic controlled Senate Finance Committee didn’t seem to think the “death panels” were so ridiculous when they removed the provision from the Senate version of the health care bill.

Is there an agenda here?

Joe Scarborough ignored Governor Palin’s meticulously cited statements and thoughtful arguments, and went directly to the same false stereotypes that are frequently repeated on liberal blogs…

Scarborough’s agenda became clear when he said, “She ain’t going to burn up Iowa anymore”. He would like to present himself and his political philosophy as the correct alternative to “extreme right wingers” like Sarah Palin.

Well lets see if his book is the alternate opinion based on his Amazon Sales rank today

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #28,738 in Books

That’s after two months, how about looking at that inciter of people Mark Levin he likes Palin?

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #31 in Books

That’s after 5 months, how about Dick Morris who I’m not a big fan of myself:

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #47 in Books

Dick’s book came out two weeks after Joe, How about Michelle?

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #14 in Books

Her book is a month old, and finally how about Glenn Beck, he must be tanking with all those boycotts right?

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #9 in Books

That one came out within 3 days of your book didn’t it Joe?

Well it’s not as if she can stay on offense against this administration since the people don’t support her, oh wait:

For years, states rich with an abundance of oil and natural gas have been begging Washington, DC politicians for the right to develop their own natural resources on federal lands and off shore. Such development would mean good paying jobs here in the United States (with health benefits) and the resulting royalties and taxes would provide money for federal coffers that would potentially off-set the need for higher income taxes, reduce the federal debt and deficits, or even help fund a trillion dollar health care plan if one were so inclined to support such a plan.

So why is it that during these tough times, when we have great needs at home, the Obama White House is prepared to send more than two billion of your hard-earned tax dollars to Brazil so that the nation’s state-owned oil company, Petrobras, can drill off shore and create jobs developing its own resources? That’s all Americans want; but such rational energy development has been continually thwarted by rabid environmentalists, faceless bureaucrats and a seemingly endless parade of lawsuits aimed at shutting down new energy projects.

I wonder if this is going to get coverage Joe? Likely a lot more than your book.

Update: Joe I hate to tell you this, you have the symptoms of Sullivan’s Syndrome. Seek help now

Update 2: I’ve added some links to coverage of Palin’s latest facebook and will continue to do so as the day goes on.

Update: 3 Marx doesn’t compete too well either