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Why the BNP won

Posted: June 9, 2009 by datechguy in opinion/news
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There is an important factor in the victory of parties like the BNP in England this past week. First some commentary starting with Mark Steyn:

The British results are the latest forlorn thermometer reading of Gordon Brown’s long goodbye. Yet, while the Labour Party is shriveling before our eyes, David Cameron’s Tories are not obviously the beneficiaries. In the English council elections the Conservatives got a lower percentage of the vote than last time round, and, insofar as there was a (one per cent) swing to the Tories in the European elections, in the end their vote was only a a handful of points higher than the combined tally of the two beyond-the-pale parties, the openly xenophobic* (well, anti-European) UK Independence Party and the openly racist British National Party. If Gordon Brown’s rotting zombie of a ministry can’t drive voters into the embrace of David Cameron, what can? The Conservatives should have been the beneficiary of both the broader two-party electoral cycle and the more immediate internecine warfare in Brown’s cabinet. But they weren’t. If I were a Tory strategist, I’d be none too thrilled with what the entrails are saying.

Andrew Suttaford:

The relative success (it won two seats) of the unlovely British National Party (a party with, at the very least, as David Pryce-Jones points out, a fascist core) in the U.K. slice of the EU elections is best seen primarily as the product of five factors: (a) the largely accurate perception that the Blair-Brown governments were enablers of mass immigration; (b) not-unconnected fears over the rise of militant Islam within the U.K.; (c) dislike of the EU; (d) the economic crisis; (e) globalization (on economics & trade policy the party is quite some way to the left) and; (f) the widespread perception, flowing in no small part from points a-e, that no parliamentary party is prepared to stick up for the interests of the white working class, a perception that explains the BNP’s recent success in finding support amongst former Labour voters. Throw in the the way that the expenses scandal now roiling parliament has discredited much of the existing political class, and there you have it . . .

David Price Jones:

However, this voting pattern does not derive from nostalgia for Hitler and Mussolini, but far more simply from the way that every European government has bent over backwards to favor Muslim immigrants over local populations. In one country after another, the government has privileged Muslim immigrants in matters of welfare benefits, housing, communal subsidies, concessions over customs that are illegal and brutal but supposed to be untouchable because sanctioned by Islam, and even in the practice of law. The ensuing Islamization of the continent is the source of immense popular anger, hitherto unexpressed. Put another way, European governments may have had benevolent intentions towards Muslims, but in practice they prove to be efficient fascist-making machines.

Charles is understandably worried, but why is this happening, likely due to stuff like this:

Joanie de Rijke was released by the Taliban in Afghanistan after a ransom of $137,000 was paid to the terrorist group. She was repeatedly raped by her captors but today believes they also respected her

And this:

It is a racially mixed estate, and there is no telling what the ethnicity of the voter opening the door will be. But the first, a young white man in his thirties, is a quick success. ‘You’re the guy who sorted out the rat infestation for us,’ he tells Mr Dunne. ‘You’ll get my vote. I’m BNP, and so is everyone I know.’

This is the first important point to note: there is no explicit talk of race, immigration or the death penalty (which the BNP supports). Just rats. This chap had a problem; his councillor fixed it and secured at least one vote. This is a significant and new aspect of the BNP’s strategy. Just as Lib Dems talk about holes in the road, not holes in the nation’s finances, the BNP (in spite of its nationalist identity) focuses relentlessly on the local. It targets councils with huge (normally Labour) majorities which have, for whatever reason, lost the will or capacity to campaign and govern well. The BNP then seeks to make itself useful: most recently, by sending squads to clear litter in strategic locations. It is a devious ploy: distracting public attention from the racist reality of the BNP by presenting itself as the ‘helpful party’.

The fixing pothole business is a basic political rule. All politics are local said Tip O’Neil and he was dead right, but that isn’t enough. The mainstream pol can fix the roads and has the government to help him do it. The real clue comes from Geert Wilders comment on the Rape story…:

“This story is a perfect illustration of the moral decline of our elites. They are so blinded by their own ideology that they turn a blind eye to the truth. Rape? Well, I would put this into perspective, says the leftist journalist: the Taliban are not monsters. Our elites prefer to deny reality rather than face it. One would expect: a woman is being raped and finds this unbearable. But this journalist is not angry because the Muslim involved also showed respect. Our elites, whether they are politicians, journalists, judges, subsidy gobblers or civil servants, are totally clueless. Plain common sense has been dumped in order to deny reality. It is not just this raped journalist who is suffering from Stockholm syndrome, but the entire Dutch elite. The only moral reference they have is: do not irritate the Muslims – that is the one thing they will condemn.”

…and the reaction to it:

Wilders’ words caused instant fury on all benches except those of his own party. Parliamentarians and government ministers reacted furiously to his reference to Joanie de Rijke. “You should be ashamed of yourself,” Femke Halsema of the far-left Green Left Party yelled. Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende, a Christian-Democrat, called Wilders’ statement “extremely painful and tasteless.” The PM said the opposition leader was “shamefully abusing” the journalist by turning her “once again into a victim unable to defend herself.”

The Dutch media, too, attacked Wilders. “Everybody is angry with Wilders” the Amsterdam daily Het Parool wrote. Even the conservative weblog De Dagelijkse Standaard headlined: “Geert Wilders insults journalist raped by Taliban.”

This is the problem in a nutshell. Wilders statement was demonstrably true yet he was attacked by left and right for it. If a mainstream right party was willing to say bluntly what Wilders said above he would be marginalized. If in England the Tories were willing to stand up to Creeping Sharia and the moves of the far left, the BNP wouldn’t get a 2nd thought. This can be done as shown later in the Spectator article:

The BNP presents a conundrum for the Conservatives. They argue that the BNP prospers in neglected Labour fiefdoms and is best regarded as the beneficiary of a left-wing splinter vote. Yet there is no denying that Margaret Thatcher destroyed the National Front by showing herself sensitive to the cultural anxieties of whites who felt ‘swamped’, never coming close to the incendiary rhetoric of Enoch Powell but using plain language which spoke directly to working-class voters. Suddenly, people like Mrs Higham in her council house felt they had a tribune — and no need of the far Right parties.

The voters don’t want the baggage of the BNP, but if nobody else will say aloud what everyone is thinking and seeing what are they to do? Charles is right to point out what parties like Pro Koln and Vlaams Belang are. It is a shame that they a gaining legitimacy but not a surprise.

The disgrace isn’t that Wilders, Vlaams Belang , BNP et/al are addressing the elephant in the room. The disgrace is that nobody else is willing to. The solution isn’t to attack these parties for addressing these issues, the solution is for mainstream non racist parties to address them instead. If they would then these guys wouldn’t get the time of day.

The bottom line is illustrated in this comment concerning the de Rijke case:

The phenomenon illustrated by the case of Joanie de Rijke is that of people who for ideological reasons deny the existence of danger and subsequently put themselves in danger. Unlike ordinary Stockholm syndrome sufferers they do not begin to shown signs of loyalty to the criminal while in captivity, but have already surrendered to the criminal before their captivity, and, indeed, have ended up in captivity as a consequence of their ideological blindness.

And so, in a way Joanie de Rijke is right. She did not develop Stockholm syndrome while in captivity. She had the syndrome even before she left for Afghanistan. It is natural that she should resent her state of mind being described as Stockholm syndrome, because she considers it to be the state of mind of a righteous and intelligent modern intellectual. It is the state of mind which she shares with almost the entire political and intellectual class of Europe today, that of the hostage to political correctness.

Remember the line from the Godfather, your enemies always grow strong on what you leave behind. As long as the Tories and other conservatives in Europe leave these issue behind, these guys will grow fat on it. You would think the examples of the French Revolution, Communism, and Fascism and the disasters that came from all of them would convince Conservative elites to act before these groups rise.

Apparently you would be wrong.

Update: Apparently the Anglican church didn’t get it either.

In addition to the heart attack that Rosie O’Donnell and other 9/11 truthers might be having today over the president’s excellent Cairo speech, I noticed several oddities in the President’s speech that are worth addressing.

Oddity #1 the War coalition.

The president mentioned that 46 states are fighting with us. For years we have been hearing from the media about unilataral action of the Bush administration, suddenly we have 46 states. It’s amazing that so many countries have started to fight in the last 5 months. I don’t remember the White House announcing this.

Oddity #2 The call to prayer:

“I am a Christian, but my father came from a Kenyan family that includes generations of Muslims. As a boy, I spent several years in Indonesia and heard the call of the azaan [the Muslim call to prayer] at the break of dawn and the fall of dusk.”

and

Much has been made of the fact that an African-American with the name Barack Hussein Obama could be elected president.

This was considered so hot that it was downplayed and almost denied during the campaign. In the reviews of this speech it is touted as is his name. How is it the media never noted it during 2008?

Oddity #3 They have killed Muslims? That’s news to us!

Indeed, none of us should tolerate these extremists. They have killed in many countries. They have killed people of different faiths – more than any other, they have killed Muslims. Their actions are irreconcilable with the rights of human beings, the progress of nations, and with Islam.

In terms of the speech saying aloud to a Muslim audience that more than any others Al Qaeda has killed Muslims is vital and important. It is a high point, but it will come as a surprise to many in our mainstream media. From what he have heard reported you would think that the “Iraqi Resistance” are just fighting occupation and it is the US that is slaughtering Muslim’s indiscriminately. Of course that mimiced the words of the president himself in the days before he held office. What a revelation this will be to the US media.

Oddity #4 Palestinian homeland

After going over the history of Jewish suffering; a vital thing to state; and meeting stone silence he says something interesting…

On the other hand, it is also undeniable that the Palestinian people – Muslims and Christians – have suffered in pursuit of a homeland. For more than 60 years they have endured the pain of dislocation. Many wait in refugee camps in the West Bank, Gaza, and neighbouring lands for a life of peace and security that they have never been able to lead. They endure the daily humiliations – large and small – that come with occupation.

The president seems to have forgotten that Israel doesn’t occupy Gaza and pulled out on their own years ago. He also forgets that 60 years ago Egypt controlled Gaza and Jordan controlled the West Bank and nobody was calling for a Palestinian state at that time.

Oddity #5 Not from the heart of Texas

In endorsing Democracy the president said this:

Each nation gives life to this principle in its own way, grounded in the traditions of its own people. America does not presume to know what is best for everyone, just as we would not presume to pick the outcome of a peaceful election. But I do have an unyielding belief that all people yearn for certain things: the ability to speak your mind and have a say in how you are governed; confidence in the rule of law and the equal administration of justice; government that is transparent and doesn’t steal from the people; the freedom to live as you choose. Those are not just American ideas, they are human rights, and that is why we will support them everywhere.

Maybe it’s just me but this sounded a whole lot a certain fellow from Texas who the media made fun of for speaking these kinds of principles. For reasons I can’t understand when these come from an inexperienced Chicago Poll they become words of power an inspiration but if we judge by our media they are just mindless platitudes when they come from a President from deep in the Heart of Texas.

It is worth noting that other than a bit of Palestinian fiction most of these oddities stem from media idolatry than anything else. Oh and you should read Israellycool for an excellent round up from various parties in the middle east.

(Actually you should read Israellycool anyways, it’s very good.)

UPDATE: And don’t forget some interesting tweets here from the Atlantic.

Update 2 Another blogger used this example in a different context but this video fits the media reaction to this speech to a t:

Much of what the president said today President Bush has said in the past. Like the guys around the table the media didn’t react positively until the right person said it.

This speech is clearly the most important act so far of the Obama presidency. (My accidental live blog of it is here)

The Jim Geraghty rule not withstanding. He publicly said many things that needed to be publicly said to an Islamic audience in the Arab world. The idea that he is defending the education of woman and girls is incredible. The public statement that Al Qaeda killed thousands of innocent Americans. Many Islamists (and truthers) still think this is not the case.

This is comparable to the Reagan speeches on the Soviet Union. Saying things that need to be said. This is very important because his name IS Barack Hussian Obama these words give legitimacy to his words in the Arab world. That shouldn’t be the case but culturally it is. Obama is the only American president that could make this speech in the Islamic world and be heard.

This has the potential to be an earthquake in the Islamic world. If he does nothing else during his presidency this is going to be the moment he should be remembered for.

*****

None of this changes the type of pol he is. I still think he is an empty suit and a Corrupt Chicago pol but those limitations don’t hurt the effect or the importance of this speech. Remember Lincoln’s famous line concerning John Pope and his family. May he in this case have more success than Pope did.

Update: Captain Ed seems to be with me on this one. Michelle and YID with LID is not. One of Yid’s points echos one I made in my speech oddities post.

I think that you have to walk before you run. Just getting some of the ideas out there in public in the Arab world by a source that isn’t repressed will make a crack in the dike that can break the Dam. I think this speech and the defense of Israel’s right to exist and historic suffering is incredible for that reason.

Went to blog morning Joe and got the speech live.

6:18 a.m. A lot of this speech makes him sound much more Islamic than he is but this is rhetoric.

6:20 a.m. He mentions the Adams treaty but doesn’t mention the tribute stuff

6:24 a.m. Extremism anywhere hurts everywhere

6:24 a.m. He quotes the Koran a bit.

6:26 a.m. Like all people we reject the killing of innocent women and children

6:28 a.m. Let us be clear some would deny or cheer 9/11 but let me make things clear Al Quada killed 3,000 innocent Americans on 9/11. This is not a something to be debated but a fact.

The audience didn’t clap to that, there will be a lot of truthers who will be angry about that.

6:30 a.m. We have a coalition of 46 countries that are fighting with us. MSNBC must have hated broadcasting that.

6:31 a.m. “Iraq is a war of choice”

6:32 a.m. He declares all troops will be out by 2012 or Iraq in 2012.

6:34 a.m. Gitmo will be closed by next year. They don’t know about Geraghty’s rule.

6:36 a.m. He states bluntly the Holocaust took place and that it can’t be denied or minimized and talks about the historical persecution of Jews. No applause lines here.

6:38 a.m. It is not a sign of strength to shoot rockets at children or blow up old women on buses.

6:40 a.m. If he quotes the Koran or hits Israel he gets applause. Any statement concerning Israel’s rights meets with stony silence.

6:42 a.m. Arab governments must not use the Arab Israeli conflict to distract from other problems.

6:43 a.m. The holy land needs to be a place where all the children of Abraham can live in peace.

6:44 a.m. He uses the “peace be upon them” formula for a reference to Jesus, Moses and Mohamed. That gets a lot of applause but will cause him grief here.

6:45 a.m. He is now talking about Iranian nukes. He talks about the coup of the 50’s and of Iranian acts against the US and other nations

6:46 a.m. No single nation should be able to decide who controls nukes. Iran has the right to peaceful nuclear power but also responsibilities.

6:48 a.m. Talks about democracy, he is sounding a lot like a certain Texan that we once knew.

6:50 a.m. We can’t impose a type of government but there are basic rights that all people want.

6:51 a.m. There are some who advocate for democracy only when out of power.

6:53 a.m. He decries religious violence and defends the Coptic in Egypt and the Maronites in Lebanon.

6:54 a.m. He attacks laws against the burka. You can’t deny the rights of a religion under the guise of liberalism.

6:55 a.m. Speaks up for woman’s education. I’m convinced our daughters can contribute just as much as our sons. This is an incredible thing to say in a speech here. I respect those woman who choose to live a traditional life but it must be their choice. For this alone this speech is critical.

6:56 a.m. Decries the modern cultural spread of violence and sex but says modern economic development can’t be denied over those cultural fears.

6:58 a.m. Talks about how his father came to America and economic development.

7:01 a.m. If we choose to be chained to the past we will never move forward.

7:02 a.m. It’s easier to blame others than look inward. That’s a radical statement to publicly make in an Arab country.

7:04 a.m. Quotes the Koran, Talmud and the New Testament over peace.

7:05 a.m. Closes with “Peace be upon you” started to say God bless but backed up.

You know a lot of what he is saying is fluff but a lot of this needed to be publicly and heard in the Islamic world.

In my opinion this is the single most important act of president Obama’s presidency and might be the best justification for his election. This speech IS worth the praise that Chris Matthews gave much lesser BS campaign speeches he gave over Rev Wright. Mainly because he has spoken out loud to an Islamic audience things that needed to be said for people faces in this area for decades. This is the “only Nixon can go to China moment.” This one has the chance to be a game changer in the Islamic world.

7:31 a.m. Back to Morning Joe Liz Cheney now being interview.

7:33 a.m. She says it missed some fundamental points. Talks moral relativism, this is correct but that wouldn’t play there. She thinks it would have. Carter like is a big hit.

7:35 a.m. Haas point out that this was not the place for a policy speech.

7:39 a.m. I haven’t seen Dylan “moneyparty” for a while.

7:46 a.m. Jarrett shoveling makes it lesser than it actually is.

8:03 a.m. It only has impact if it follows with policy, I’m not so sure myself.

8:10 a.m. All about Twitter

8:14 a.m. Would you invite a foreign government to come into Michigan to build? Mich gov touts tax breaks.

8:18 a.m. I’m with Mika on the Twitter thing

8:22 a.m. 20th anniversary protests in Hong Kong over Tiananmen Square they only give it a moment.

8:30 a.m. Nancy Reagan stuff It’s amazing how many liberals pretend they liked Reagan now.

8:42 a.m. Joe vs Goodwin, they ignore the words of the liberals that say various things.

8:45 a.m. He does the 4% 25% BS