Posts Tagged ‘Israel’

This sounds like Sherman too

Posted: January 6, 2009 by datechguy in arthur vs carter, opinion/news
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Via Israellycool this Arab written article is rather amazing:

With Israel entering its fourth week of an incursion into the same Gaza Strip it voluntarily evacuated a few months ago, a sense of reality among Arabs is spreading through commentary by Arab pundits, letters to the editor, and political talk shows on Arabic-language TV networks. The new views are stunning both in their maturity and in their realism. The best way I can think of to convey them is in the form of a letter to the Palestinian Arabs from their Arab friends:

Dear Palestinian Arab brethren:

The war with Israel is over.

You have lost. Surrender and negotiate to secure a future for your children.

The next phrase sounds just like Sherman:

…you and your leaders have wasted three generations trying to fight for Palestine, but the truth is the Palestine you could have had in 1948 is much bigger than the one you could have had in 1967, which in turn is much bigger than what you may have to settle for now or in another 10 years. Struggle means less land and more misery and utter loneliness.

At the moment, brothers, you would be lucky to secure a semblance of a state in that Gaza Strip into which you have all crowded, and a small part of the West Bank of the Jordan. It isn’t going to get better.

Here is Sherman in Jan 1964

Three years ago by a little reflection and patience they could have had a hundred years of peace and prosperity, but they preferred war; very well. Last year they could have saved their slaves, but now it is too late.

All the powers of earth cannot restore to them their slaves, any more than their dead grandfathers. Next year their lands will be taken, for in war we can take them, and rightfully, too, and in another year they may beg in vain for their lives. A people who will persevere in war beyond a certain limit ought to know the consequences.

I attribute Arab movement in this direction to three things: The War in Iraq, The Gaza withdrawal, and Iran’s move for the bomb. It remains to be seen if Israel can win the propaganda war. If it can the whole dynamic of the area can change.

We can be sure that unless totally destroyed Hamas will hold out till at least the 20th to see if there is any change with the new president. It will be interesting. Arthur or Carter. Believe it or not I’m betting Arthur.

Simple ways to prove me wrong

Posted: January 6, 2009 by datechguy in opinion/news
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My provocative statement concerning the left and Jews is not going over well with some. My follow up considering Nordlinger’s position is still being considered by me, but there are very simple steps that the left can do to prove me wrong right away:

  • Condemn the rocket attacks by Hamas on Israel that led to the current war.
  • Condemn groups within their own coalition that call for the destruction of Israel
  • Condemn groups that call for the death of Jews
  • Exclude groups from “anti-war” marches that call for either the destruction of Israel or the murder of Jews
  • On left leaning blogs comment condemning those who call for either the death of Jews, the destruction of Israel or advocate violence against the Jews.  I don’t call for banning such commentators unless such statements contravene the particular blog’s guidelines.  Speech whenever possible should be answered with speech.
  • This must be done in the same public manor and with the same volume that you condemn Israel, Bush or America.

If the left can do this then that would certainly prove me wrong.  I would be delighted to see it.  A great example of this on the right is at Little Green Footballs which has taken an awful lot of grief for rejecting any alliance with Vlaams Belang even to combat Jihad.

The creed of the left.

Posted: January 5, 2009 by datechguy in opinion/news
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Here is an interesting story:

The jets bombed the bejeebers out of them. The ground forces invaded. They at long last suppressed the terrorists, who had conducted a long campaign of suicide bombing and planting bombs, and put an end to any notion that the terrorists and their sponsors would be granted their own state.

Many civilians were killed and wounded…

Well this sounds like something massive protests must be going on about, people against violence must have shrieked loudly. Or not.

not a single Solidarity-with-the-Tamil-Tigers protest has been organized on a single Western campus or in a single downtown square. Mobs and “academics” have not taken to the streets to demand an end to the war of aggression against the Tamils. Leftist web sites have not proclaimed every injury of a Tamil civilian to be a Nazi-like war crime and an act of genocide.

Eurocrats have not pontificated about how the Sri Lankan response to the terror was out of proportion. The International Solidarity Movement has not sent in protesters from the West to try to defend the terrorists. Communists and fellow travelers have not organized flotillas of boats carrying aid to the terrorists. Israeli politicians have not lectured the Sinhalese of Sri Lanka about how the whole problem is that they are insensitive to the needs of the “Other.”

None have proposed dividing Colombo and handing over half to the Tamils. Virtually no one knows that 65,000 civilians have died in the fighting and the media have no interest in covering the story.

How could this be? Simple answer. If you can’t blame Jews or Americans, then its not evil or important. Why? Because their final goal is dead Jews. Period.

Update 5: That answer is a pretty strong generalization and maybe too simple. Perhaps it should be simply be said that they are indifferent to dead Jews.

To steal one of Glenn’s phrases: They’re not anti-war, they’re just on the other side.

Update: An anti-war protest just isn’t an anti-war protest without rocket and grenades is it?

Update two: Jay Nordlinger provides a less provocative suggestion that has some merit. Still this doesn’t explain why dead Jews don’t rate a batted eyelash. It also doesn’t explain why many of the protests call for death to the Jews. If I was involved in a protest against militant Islam and a Neo Nazi group wanted to march with me it would be considered incumbent on me and rightly so, to renounce and exclude them. For some reason this requirement never seems to be given to the left when they march with people who desire dead Jews.

Some examples here and here:

While the Arabs screamed their desire to exterminate Jews, the English-monolingualists simply stood there happily smiling their approbation. The correct pronunciation may have been beyond them, but they approved of the sentiment. Which is proven by their resolute continued presence and solidarity.
No, they do NOT have plausible deniability – the ‘river to the sea’ slogan shows that they wish for a genocide against Israel, and translations of the Arabic slogans have been provided so many times that they cannot claim ignorance of the meanings.
Besides, the angry Middle-Eastern Jew-hater with a bullhorn, and the rabid white chick with an equally loud bullhorn and a grating voice, made plain in great detail what the peace movement’s plan for Israel and the Jews entails, as did the numerous threats and insults directed at our side by both Arabs and Anglos.

Also here and here.

And comments like this at Kos the big site for the left.

And no protests for statements from Hamas like this:

The Hamas leader called to murder Israelis and Jews worldwide, including children. “The Israelis have sentenced their children to death… They have legitimized the killing of their people all over the world,” he said. Hamas’ platform calls for all Jews to convert to Islam or be killed,

Where is the left denouncing this? I don’t see it.

Update 3 Don’t forget this protest in Holland where they are shouting “Jews to the Gas.”

Jew hatred is centuries old and frankly is not rational. Why would rational people on the left not loudly decry it?

Update 4 The left can of course prove me wrong.

Pray for them all

Posted: January 5, 2009 by datechguy in catholic, war
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I’ve posted quite a bit criticizing the Arabs in general and the Palestinians in particular concerning the war that is currently going on.

That criticism not withstanding as Christians in general and as Catholics in particular we are obliged to pray for both the Israeli’s and the Palestinians.

War on any level is a horrible thing, it may sometimes be necessary, it may sometimes be just, it may stop or prevent something that is even worse but it should never be a cause for celebration.

We are obliged to pray for the quick end of the war and peace in the region. One may of course pray for victory for the right but Christians are obliged to pray for their enemies:

“But to you who hear I say, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. To the person who strikes you on one cheek, offer the other one as well, and from the person who takes your cloak, do not withhold even your tunic. Give to everyone who asks of you, and from the one who takes what is yours do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you. For if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do the same. If you lend money to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit (is) that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, and get back the same amount. But rather, love your enemies and do good to them, and lend expecting nothing back; then your reward will be great and you will be children of the Most High, for he himself is kind to the ungrateful and the wicked.

This is not optional! If you claim to be Christian and believe the Gospel to be true it must be done. All souls have equal value in the eyes of God. Even if you don’t agree with it those are the rules. You are not required to agree with the rules but you are required to obey them.

Update: I call upon my fellow Christian bloggers to echo this message. For my fellow Catholics I think the sorrowful mysteries of the Rosary would be a good choice here.