Posts Tagged ‘palestinians’

Some things are just so ridiculous on their face that you can’t believe a prominent journalist actually said it:

“They [Israel] haven’t had a car bombing in two and a half years and the sad truth, really, is that the wall with the West Bank has actually worked.

Am I to understand that it is a regrettable thing that the wall to the west has prevented large amounts of Jews from living in fear and dying in violent slaughter? Time magazine has more:

Now observing 2½ years without a single suicide bombing on their territory, with the economy robust and with souls a trifle weary of having to handle big elemental thoughts, the Israeli public prefers to explore such satisfactions as might be available from the private sphere, in a land first imagined as a utopia. “Listen to me,” says Eli Bengozi, born in Soviet Georgia and for 40 years an Israeli. “Peace? Forget about it. They’ll never have peace. Remember Clinton gave 99% to Arafat, and instead of them fighting for 1%, what? Intifadeh.”

Does it occur to anyone that the wall actually provided peace. The Jews aren’t (and never were) interested in killing “Palestinians”, and thanks to the wall the “Palestinians” who apparently still want to kill Jews instead of you know having a life, can’t get to them.

As long as Arabs in general and “Palestinians” in particular consider dead Jews one of their favorite things you can’t have official peace, but if Palestinians can’t kill Jews, you will have defacto peace which apparently offends some on the left to no end.

The “Palestinians” elites hate it too, because with even defacto peace comes the responsibility to govern, and perhaps the reduction of the international welfare that has allowed the PLO leadership to line their pockets while ignoring their people for years.

Bottom line as long as “Palestinians” areas are Judenrein they are not interested in peace and we should stop pretending they are.

My answer to Dave on Israel…

Posted: August 1, 2010 by datechguy in opinion/news
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One of my most prolific commentators lately is a liberal fellow named David W. Walters. He has been kind enough to give me his attention and critiques on the issue and I’m very pleased to have him. After all if your positions are worth anything they can stand up under fire. Anyways Today he left the following comment concerning the blog redesign (Thumbs up, thanks) and Israel: to wit:

-Your blog looks better…..
But Israel has lost my support and is loosing the support of more Americans as they continue to occupy Palestinian territory and brutalize civilians. Yes, I abhor terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians. But those actions are the result of Palestinian rage against Israel. If Israel is really interested in a peaceful settlement with Palestinians, they have to stop taking land that isn’t theirs by bulldozing people’s homes and cutting off water supplies. That just isn’t civilized.

I wrote a very long response that really should be a post so I’m promoting it:

I have to disagree for several reasons:

First of all the first partition split the country into two parts, a Jewish and an Arab one. The “Palestinian” part was Jordan. However the Arabs decided they would rather kill off the Jews instead.

Secondly nobody even thought of a different Palestinian state until Israel conquered the west bank and Gaza. Egypt and Jordan could have made a “Palestinian” state any time they wanted to at that time, but didn’t.

Thirdly: Israel has over and over again given up land for peace and has not gotten peace for it.

Fourthly: Israel pulled out of Gaza fully leaving behind green houses and all kinds of infrastructure, never was the chance for an area to develop better, and yet the Arabs choose to use it as a rocket base to kill Jews.

Fifthly: In arab schools Jews are constantly taught that Jews are to be killed, remember the famous moment here in the US just this year. If you don’t want to bother clicking here is the key quote:

Horowitz …‘Okay, I’ll put it to you this way. I am a Jew. The head of Hizbollah has said that he hopes that we will gather in Israel so he doesn’t have to hunt us down globally. For or Against it?

MSA member: For it.

Or put in in short form. How can you tell the Arab position is bull. Because Arabs serve in the Israeli government and have the vote in Israel, while the Arab/Palestinian area are Judenrein.

When a Jew can live as safely in an Arab area as an Arab can live in Israel, then we’ll talk.

Update: Totten provides a current sixthly

then read this:

In Sheba’s pediatric hemato-oncology department was Mohammed Abu Mustafa, a four-and-a-half-month-old Palestinian infant. Protruding from his tiny body were pipes attached to big machines. His breathing was labored.

“His days may be numbered. He is suffering from a genetic defect that is causing the failure of his immune system,” said the baby’s mother, Raida, from the Gaza Strip, when she emerged from the isolation room. “I had two daughters in Gaza,” she continued, her black eyes shimmering. “Both died because of immune deficiency. In Gaza I was told all the time that there is no treatment for this and that he is doomed to die. The problem now is how to pay for the [bone marrow] transplant. There is no funding.”

Pretty sad story, the irony of course being that here is a Palestinian kid in an Israeli Hospital in the first place, the story goes on as the filmmaker realizes something (emphasis mine)…

“I got to her after all the attempts to find a donation for the transplant had failed,” he relates. “I understood that I was the baby’s last hope, but I didn’t give it much of a chance. At the time, Qassam rockets falling on Sderot opened every newscast. In that situation, I didn’t believe that anyone would be willing to give a shekel for a Palestinian infant.”

He was wrong. Hours after the news item about Mohammed was broadcast, the hospital switchboard was jammed with callers. An Israeli Jew whose son died during his military service donated $55,000, and for the first time the Abu Mustafa family began to feel hopeful. Only then did Eldar grasp the full dramatic potential of the story. He told his editor, Tali Ben Ovadia, that he wanted to continue accompanying the family.

…Yup those nasty evil Jews decided to come up with dough so the kid might have a future. And what was the future the mother dreamed of for the kid? One Guess again emphasis mine:

And Eldar was angry. “Then why are you fighting to save your son’s life, if you say that death is a usual thing for your people?” he lashes out in one of the most dramatic moments in the film.

“It is a regular thing,” she smiles at him. “Life is not precious. Life is precious, but not for us. For us, life is nothing, not worth a thing. That is why we have so many suicide bombers. They are not afraid of death. None of us, not even the children, are afraid of death. It is natural for us. After Mohammed gets well, I will certainly want him to be a shahid. If it’s for Jerusalem, then there’s no problem. For you it is hard, I know; with us, there are cries of rejoicing and happiness when someone falls as a shahid. For us a shahid is a tremendous thing.

Even assuming that she was afraid to say something different on camera it is really something.

I’ll say it again, if the Jews were even half of what the Palestinians and the Methodists thought; the Palestinians would have been wiped out 40 years ago. And if the Arabs were in the Jews place, there would not be a Jew alive in Israel.

This is Radical Islam, it can’t be negotiated with, ignored or changed via nice words. It can only be changed from within, surrendered to or destroyed.

And the longer you ignore the problem the less likely that change option will exist.

Via Elder of Ziyon and Memeorandum.

Update: In case you’ve forgotten this has been going on for a long time. Weekly standard Aug 19, 2002:

Downstairs, before we left, the head of the hospital, an Israeli named Audrey, was showing me the children’s waiting room. I couldn’t help but notice, all around, an Arab woman with her son, an Arab family over there checking in, Arab children playing with the toys while waiting. The doctor saw the look on my face and laughed. “Oh, yes, we treat everyone.” I guess I was astonished. She just shrugged. “We’re Jews. This is how we live. It’s also for the future. They’re not going anywhere, and we’re not going anywhere. There will eventually be peace. There has to be.” When? A month? A year? A hundred years? More? She didn’t know. I had to say it. You’re incredible. You take everyone, you treat everyone, no one goes first, no one goes last, you just go in order of who needs help. That’s, like, Mother Teresa stuff. “We’re not saints, we’re just doing our jobs. It’s not easy, I admit. And it gets hard when they cheer when the bodies are brought in.” I looked at her. What did you say? She sighed. “Yes, it gets hard when they cheer.” This was one of the times during my trip when I held up my hands and said, “Stop. Wait.” I turned and walked away to breathe deeply for a minute. I wonder if they’ve restocked that mini-bar. Yeah, probably. It’s a good hotel.

Can anyone explain to me why we are giving these Palestinian bastards any tax dollars at all? Yes I said bastards, how cruel of me, I should have said barbarian bastards. And yes I’d still treat their wounded and sick. Just because they are barbarian bastards doesn’t mean we should be.