Posts Tagged ‘religion’

…against the barbarians lined up against them, but you know as a Catholic the idea that the Pope owes the state of Israel an apology for the Holocaust is not only nonsense but in my opinion requires an apology for the attempt to hang Hitler’s final solution around the neck of my church in general and this Pope in particular.

The democratic state of Israel is waging a just struggle against lying barbarians who would slaughter them all and then cheer. They deserve support and as a civilized man I am obliged to give it. The Jewish race and religion are the older brothers of my Catholic faith. They are no less God’s people then they were when God spoke to Abram. They deserve respect. These are facts and one insult is not going to change it, but I’m feeling very Josey Walesish today.

Here is the speech in question:

BTW I want to again give Israellycool big props. I suspect we don’t agree on this issue but he posted the speech in full and linked to the reactions so people could make up their own mind. He has been very fair and to continue the metaphor from above, brothers disagree and get angry on occasion, but that doesn’t mean we don’t stick together.

This is evil

Posted: May 11, 2009 by datechguy in opinion/news
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As you should have figured out by now, I don’t believe in “Gay Marriage” (thus the quotes). I think it like a lot of the cultural excesses of today are massive exercises in narcissism. As a Roman Catholic it would also be considered sinful.

That being said appalling is not a strong enough word for this:

Unfortunately, the Iraqi government is neck-deep in the gay butchery themselves. Interior Ministry police hunt down gays in Baghdad, raid parties, hunt them online by using fake foreign IP addresses (as Iran does), then tortures and exterminates them in the worst possible ways. Just as Iraqi Spiritual Leader Ali al-Sistani declared they should be, in his 2006 fatwa of death against Iraqi LGBTs. Though removed from his website after controversy, the fatwa is still in full effect.

Allow me at this point to question the spirituality of a religious leader favoring any pogrom, or stating that ANYONE should die in the ‘worst possible ways’.

Here is one former Mahdi Army member who now makes a career of being a gay death squad ’surgeon,’ cutting out the cancer of homosexuality the Americans brought with them to Iraq. His words, not mine. Also, one particularly subhuman technique of killing gays, now quite popular with Iraq’s most pious Shiite extremists, is to super-glue a gay man’s anus shut, pump him full of a diarrhea-inducing compound, and have a few laughs as the victim suffers unbelievable agony before dying. The Iraqi tribes also now have carte blanche to exterminate any Iraqi LGBTs they find.

Job one is Iraq is of course the defeat of any Al Qaeda elements that could threaten either Iraq or the US. The author forgets this, eyes on the prize and all. Still it is our responsibility to do all we can to stop this slaughter and we can actually do quite a bit. To hold the Iraqi’s to a lesser standard would be a bigoted action against them as if they were not civilized enough to know better.

The question is what will the administration do? It is incumbent on us to ask the question.

I must confess to my shame that I had absolutely no idea this was going on in Iraq. With knowledge comes responsibility to speak. So I’m speaking but Mr Simpson gets credit for speaking first.

I’m not much for Gay rallies but if I lived in San Francisco I’d attend the rally of the 17th. If you are in the area you should too. As Americans and as Catholic we need to speak against this evil

And a quick suggestion to our friends on the left. If you want people on the right to attend and support said rally keep it a rally in support of LGBT’s in Iraq and not a rally either against the war or against Christianity or against prop 8. We can argue about those things when people aren’t being slaughtered for their sexual sins.

And in case you are a person who says good riddance, as the moral argument won’t work with you let me make the practical one: If a society can slaughter people over sin, you’d better hope that said society doesn’t decide to make your perceived sins capital ones.

The Pope walks

Posted: May 11, 2009 by datechguy in catholic, opinion/news
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You know everything the Pope does gets worldwide attention. When he lifted the excommunication on the St. Pius X society “bishops” the press took the opportunity to jump on him as an anti-Semite. I wonder what they will say after today:

Taking the podium after the pope without being on the original list of speakers scheduled for the evening, Tamimi, speaking at length in Arabic, accused Israel of murdering women and children in Gaza and making Palestinians refugees, and declared Jerusalem the eternal Palestinian capital.

Following the diatribe and before the meeting was officially over, the pope exited the premises.

Apparently a few years ago the guy tried the same thing with John Paul II.

Damian Thompson comments:

I reckon the Holy Father responded appropriately. He didn’t precipitate a diplomatic incident by refusing to shake the speaker’s hand, but by leaving before the meeting was over he made it absolutely plain that the Vatican does not take sides in the Israel-Palestine dispute.

The American Papist comments and notes a parallel:

Pope Benedict is a model of Catholic dialogue. Evidently there are some cases of “dialogue” that are actually “false dialogue”. If Pope Benedict is willing to walk out of a dialogue he sees as unfruitful and even harmful, what should that tell us about avoiding situations of dialogue that contradict our Catholic principles?

Oh and PS … the “Notre Dame Center”?!

Hint Hint!

LGF notes it. Gateway Pundit does too.

Nothing yet from Atlas or Yourish but Isreallycool has coverage of the trip and reveals that apparently the pope can’t please anyone, certainly not the former chief Rabbi of Israel:

“A few points were missing in the pope’s address,” said Lau. “There was no mention of the Germans, or Nazis, who carried out the massacre. There was not a word of sharing the grief or of compassion or pain for the six million victims.”

“Instead of the word ‘murdered,’ as the previous pope John Paul II used,” Lau continued, Benedict XVI used the word ‘killed.’ There is a very clear difference between the two verbs,” the former chief rabbi stressed.

The youtube of the “offensive” speech is at his site…

…oh and by the way in case you didn’t notice the Palestinians are STILL sending rockets into Israel.

Update: Glenn comments:

Hey, you can’t have meaningful dialogue with some people. So why pretend?

Update 2: Atlas Shrugs asks the question:

What was the Pope expecting? Hasn’t he read the Quran? This was pious speech! As if these savages were capable of “peace” — it is an anathema to islamic doctrine. They will never accept a Jewish state.

It’s not a question of what do you expect. The pope since he is the pope is going to treat everyone he meets with Christian love and respect. It’s up to that person to earn it. This one didn’t.

The other McCain throws a shot at LGF:

Following the diatribe and before the meeting was officially over, the pope exited the premises. Army Radio reported that the pope shook Tamimi’s hand before walking out.
The Pope was immediately denounced as a “Eurofascist” and a “notorious Pamela Geller sympathizer” by the Little Green Footballs blog.

I might have added that last part.

Update 3 Hotair’s headlines notice

Update 4 The Anchoress:

Some forums are complaining that the pope didn’t leave in the middle of the speech. Some are complaining that he shook the sheikh’s hand on the way out. I say give the Holy Father props for maintaining the absolute minimum diplomatic courtesy to a very discourteous person and then absenting himself from this evil. I say give him some props for appearing to be the last man on the international stage with some both dignity and moxie.

Update 5: I guess we now know what they will say. Why am i not even slightly surprised?

…hasn’t commented on the Notre Dame Scandal on his blog. In fact his last post was back in march.

I’d be really interested in knowing what the school’s or his position on the Notre Dame scandal is. As the president of a Catholic University who has assured me in writing that

we proclaim and practice our core identity as a Catholic and sisters of St. Anne institution in the classroom, through our programs and services, and in our practices on and off campus.

I would think he would have an opinion on the subject. A search of google news doesn’t show any hits for him. I think it would be interesting to know what he and other presidents of Catholic Universities think about this.