Posts Tagged ‘robert leslie hymers’

And the Hymers keep fighting

Posted: June 6, 2010 by datechguy in oddities
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The Hymes clan continues to give Little Miss Attila a whole lot of attention.

Even through another member of Baptist Tabernacle, that is initiating contact, which is in general the fastest way to get me to blog about the Hymerses. (The other two things that will get me to do it are when I get heart-wrenching stories from former cultists that I’m given permission to publish [with names redacted, natch], or when Dr. R.L. Hymers gets media coverage.)

She links to and comments on the response of the “church” but shows the difference between the pair.

When one side in a dispute is willing to link to both sides and let people make up their own mind while the other runs to the FBI, tell me who is more confident in their beliefs?

And Attila publishes part 2…

Posted: June 3, 2010 by datechguy in internet/free speech
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of the Hymers report from 1988 Money Quote:

[Other Newcaster]: “Phones have been ringing upstairs from people who have had a lot of contact with him. Good and bad, right?”

Anson: “Right, you know I expected a lot of angry phone calls from the story yesterday—angry phone calls from his current members. And there have been a couple of those, but the overwhelming response has been from other former members. Other members than you’ve seen in these two stories, and they confirm everything that the others talk about.”

Forgetting just for a moment the attack on my friend, it is of course natural for a son to defend his father. If one is going to do so perhaps one might consider using one’s head as the charming Roxeanne explains:

If this young man wants to be a lawyer, and has yet to be accepted to law school, he will have the joy of explaining this little entanglement with the legal system on every law school application that he fills out. When he sits for the bar exam and attempts to be licensed in a state, he must also disclose this, in sufficient detail to enable the Character and Fitness committees to determine if he should be set loose upon the country with the ability to practise law. None of those various procedures require one to disclose whether or not one’s father is a cult leader; however, every personal encounter with the legal system must be discussed.

Or as the Sage has tried to explain to Groo: Brains before swords.

Speaking of oddities, Cardinal of the Archdiocese of the Rightosphere? Well I am passing the collection plate a bit these days.

And Miss Attila continues to fight…

Posted: June 1, 2010 by datechguy in internet/free speech
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With a pair of post highlighting first the great esteem the media holds R.L. Hymers, Jr, a snipit:

[“Linda”]: “I’ve seen him, personally, hit someone repeatedly in the face. I’ve seen him do that.”

Anson: “Sometimes the emotional abuse can be very public, even if the transgression appears to have nothing to do with religion. In this old church bulletin, one woman is attacked for ‘the soul damning sin of gluttony.’ Another is condemned for an alleged ‘unnatural sex crime,
her second.’”

Read the lot and shake your head. The second is another series of letters that concludes with a zinger:

10) I do not hold out any particular hope that Dr. Robert L. Hymers will ever become a real man, by learning to take responsibility for his actions—much less develop a close personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I do, however, hold out both of those hopes for young Leslie, and he will remain in my fervent prayers. Please give him my best—but let him know that if he wants to go to law school, he must work on his writing skills and reasoning ability just a bit.

And he ought to learn to behave like a gentleman with respect to older ladies.

I think going after this lady was a very foolish move.

I Stand with Little Miss Attila

Posted: June 1, 2010 by datechguy in catholic, internet/free speech
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One of the things that I’ve criticized radical Islam for is their inability to take critique without threats.

Miss Attila in her youth was once a member of what appears to be a cult.

I don’t claim to be an expert on these guys, but I have enough common sense to know that if a church is harassing an individual who has left it 25 years ago then this Gospel passage doesn’t apply to them:

And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. Matt 16:18

Forget the gates of hell, A church that can’t abide a single Catholic blogger’s critique is no true church. If they had faith or truth they would not need to sic lawyers on a blogger in a cute hat, as Stacy McCain puts it:

Why did Hymers III have his attorney contact LMA to tell her that she has been reported to the FBI? It’s intimidation, pure and simple. They want her to shut up.

Trying to silence critics — isn’t that what cults do?

Read the entire correspondence for yourself and make up your own mind.

For myself: I won’t claim to be even remotely unbiased here. Joy McCain is my friend and I pray for her and her husband daily. Anyone who is threatens them is a foe of mine and I promise this, any future post on the Robert Leslie Hymers cult from her will generate a link and a post here. Generally groups like this can’t stand the light, so we will hit them with the light of the multiplier of linky love.

They do have one thing going for them, as a foe of mine, I am required to pray for them.