Posts Tagged ‘War on Terror’

In a phone call to Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough makes a critical point on Pakistan; that of course they are our enemy and have been from the start.

Does anyone remember the speech that Musharraf made at the start of the Afghan war besides me? As I recall (and correct me if I’m wrong) In that speech he compared his actions in corporation with the Bush administration to Mohammad’s treaty with the Jews and stressed he was doing what he was about to do for the survival of his country.

Basically at a time when practically the entire country was looking for blood Bush laid down the law and Musharraf caved, but at the same time we breathed a sigh of relief as we wanted no part of a war with a Nuclear Pakistan if it could be avoided.

As soon as they (Pakistan) determined that we were not going to hit them, they quickly resumed their role as quiet friends of Islamic terror in general and the Taliban in particular.

Since there is absolutely of us challenging Pakistan in a way they would find credible (particularly with this administration) this will continue with impunity until and unless there is a cost to those in power greater than the domestic risk of supporting us.

Update: Hate to admit it but Zbigniew Brzezinski is absolutely right, I’m being simplistic on Pakistan, there are multiple sides within the government and it is very complicated. We do have to be very careful here.

…a bunch of classified documents in the hopes of derailing the effort.

So on Morning Joe we have a panel of people all against the war commenting on it. (In fairness the entire regular panel is against the war anyway so they would have to have a guest on to defend it.) Is there outrage, is there anger and this kind of leak? Nah.

They are less excited about it then you would expect, they say it is info we mostly already know, no big surprises. Harold Ford makes the correct observation that war is generally not clean and easy and the administration needs to explain that to the public. Barnicle points out that “this is Bush info” is not going to fly.

Will anyone be prosecuted for this? Unlikely. That would depress the administration’s base that is already depressed going into a midterm. They may or may not care about Afghanistan but they sure care if it is lost on their watch.

You can be sure about one thing, you will see none of the media outrage that you did over the Palme Affair.

Bottom line, this is dishonorable act by people who don’t understand the meaning of the word and care less for the well being of the troops and the country than they do about their agenda. They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent that the law allows. This will take place sometime after the Beatles reunite by using Voodoo to revive zombified remains of George and John.

Memeorandum thread here

Update: Stacy links, thanks

Another contrast of Israel vs Hamas

Posted: July 20, 2010 by datechguy in opinion/news
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As I am not Jewish or an Evangelical Christian some wonder why I’m so Pro-Israel and so hard on the Palestinians. Here is another example of why I think how I do:

Here is an example of the typical behavior of Hamas toward Jews:

Police and Israel Security Agency (Shin Bet) agents have tracked down and arrested members of a Hamas terrorist cell responsible for a June shooting attack that killed police officer Shuki Sofer, who was engaged to be married. Two other officers were wounded in the attack.

And here is an example in the very next paragraph in the story of the typical behavior of Israel toward Hamas:

One of the terrorists, two weeks before the murder, had received humanitarian aid at Israel’s Hadassah Hospital in Jerusalem, where he had accompanied his six-year-old daughter for surgery that removed a tumor removed from her eye. The operation had been paid for in full by an Israeli charity foundation.

and the sad thing is you can find plenty examples of that behavior by Jews toward those trying to kill them. When I see examples of the 2nd paragraph from the Arabs, Palestinians, Hamas, et/al rather than the first then I’ll take them seriously.

memeorandum thread here

Friedman makes a couple of good points concerning the Octavia Nasr firing in his column today:

Augustus Richard Norton, of Boston University, a Shiite expert, said this about Fadlallah, whom he knew: “He argued that women should have equal opportunities to men and be well educated. He even argued that women have a right to hit their husband back because it was not appropriate for a spouse to be beaten by their husbands. He was not afraid to speak about sexuality, and he even once gave [a mosque sermon] about sexual urges and female masturbation. It was common to find young people who followed his writings all over the region.” Indeed, Nasr later explained that her tweet about Fadlallah was because he took a “contrarian and pioneering stand among Shia clerics on women’s rights.”

Remember this is an islamic cleric in Lebanon, after reading several books on woman’s repression in Islamic we need a lot more of this, second good point:

Ghaddar said she came to understand that “only figures like Fadlallah could change the status quo. People who position themselves as anti-Hezbollah, critics of resistance, or atheists, will rarely be heard within the Shia community, because people will not listen to them. … Fadlallah on the other hand could reach out to the people because he was one of them. … People like him, if strengthened, can bring about real change. He is one of those rare people whom Hezbollah and the Iranian leadership feared … because people liked him and respected him.”

These are both legitimate things to consider about the guy (If he was Stacy McCain he would have also played the My God she is Hot card) as is the point that only someone on the team will be listened to.

However you miss the most important point. He was in favor of dead Jews, LOTS of them. Regardless of the other stuff he was still a terrorist. Defending and supporting him is like defending Albert Speer. You can make any amount of excuses you want, he’s still a Nazi. I’ve mentioned this type of thing before:

It’s like saying Tessio is a scoundrel and Clemenza is not. They’re all friggen Mafia! They are by definition all scoundrels.

Or to put it even better consider this exchange from the Classic movie The Great Escape. Where the C.O. points out the risks of such a plan to the med:

Ramsey: I have to point out one thing to you, Roger. No matter how unsatisfactory this camp may be, the high command have left us in the hands of the Luftwaffe, not the Gestapo and the SS.

Bartlett: Look, sir, you talk about the high command of the Luftwaffe, then the SS and the Gestapo. To me they’re the same. We’re fighting the bloody lot. There’s only one way to put it, sir. They are the common enemies of everyone who believes in freedom.

That’s is the critical point and Friedman misses it. They are the common enemy. There was no nuance here. If she said the same thing about a Bin Ladin deputy would we even have to ask if she should be fired?

Update: memeorandum thread here.