Posts Tagged ‘War on Terror’

Q: How do we know that Al Qaeda is losing the war in Iraq bitterly?

What type of thing; suddenly changing their beliefs to suit their current needs:

Zawahiri’s Wife Releases Statement, Tells Women They Can Be Suicide Bombers

How about that, Islamic Misogyny no longer extends to blowing oneself up.

It reminds me of the story of Pat Cleburne one of the greatest generals the confederacy and his Jan 1864 pragmatic letter concerning freeing and enlisting Blacks en masse into the confederate armies that said in part:

The President of the United States announces that ‘he has already in training an army of 100,000 negroes as good as any troops,’ and every fresh raid he makes and new slice of territory he wrests from us will add to this force. Every soldier in our army already knows and feels our numerical inferiority to the enemy….Our single source of supply is that portion of our white men fit for duty and not now in the ranks. The enemy has three sources of supply: First, his own motley population; secondly, our slaves; and thirdly, Europeans whose hearts are fired into a crusade against us by fictitious pictures of the atrocities of slavery, and who meet no hinderance from their Governments in such enterprise, because these Governments are equally antagonistic to the institution. In touching the third cause, the fact that slavery has become a military weakness, we may rouse prejudice and passion, but the time has come when it would be madness not to look at our danger from every point of view, and to probe it to the bottom. Apart from the assistance that home and foreign prejudice against slavery has given the North, slavery is a source of great strength to the enemy in a purely military point of view, by supplying him with an army from our granaries; but it is our most vulnerable point, a continued embarrassment, and in some respects an insidious weakness….Like past years, 1864 will diminish our ranks by the casualties of war, and what source of repair is there left us?….

The Constitution of the Southern States has reserved to their respective governments the power to free slaves for meritorious services to the State. It is politic besides. For many years, ever since the agitation of the subject of slavery commenced, the negro has been dreaming of freedom, and his vivid imagination has surrounded that condition with so many gratifications that it has become the paradise of his hopes. To attain it he will tempt dangers and difficulties not exceeded by the bravest soldier in the field….The slaves are dangerous now, but armed, trained, and collected in an army they would be a thousand fold more dangerous; therefore when we make soldiers of them we must make free men of them beyond all question, and thus enlist their sympathies also….

Cleburne’s letter’s language seems outrageous to us today for it’s defense of slavery as an institution; it was even more outrageous to those he served with. So much so it was suppressed and although one of the best field generals produced by the south, Cleburne never received further promotion. Imagine instead that Cleburne was in Hood’s place at the start of Sherman’s offensive vs Joe Johnson or in his place after Johnson’s relief.

The South eventually authorized Black troops a month before Lee’s surrender. Lincoln commented that if the slaves were conscripted into the Confederate armies they could not also grow foodstuffs for them. It signified the south reaching the limit of their last reserves. If Al Qaeda is recruiting women for bombings that suggests the same.

If this isn’t a good sign for us then I don’t know what is.

Update: Rush is leading with this today.

Q: What is the one thing that president has done that might cause him to be worthy of the prize he is now receiving.

If this president manages to pull out a win in Afghanistan and defeats the Taliban then he will actually have taken a decisive action that makes his prize something he deserves.

And I don’t think he is going to pull out in 2011, I think he may get a primary challenge because of it (that he will beat back) but I think in the end he is going to fight to win.

Lets hope he manages to earn it.

…and so far the speech is first rate.

The acknowledgment of those who came before him, winning the prize due to decades of action and suffering, was and is very important. The call out to those who are actually doing peacemaking and are imprisoned for the cause of freedom (it would have been nice to say a few by name but I’ll take it).

He acknowledges the war and his involvement in deploying troops. He declares it a just war.

He then talks about the history of the 20th century and talks about the doctrine of Just war and makes it clear that the United States is justly proud of it’s actions.

He talks about “A few small men with outsized rage.” That is the best description of the terrorists we fight that I’ve heard. He says that you can not negotiate with Al Qaeda.

“To say that force is sometimes necessary is not cynicism”. Is this Actually Barack Obama talking?

He declares publicly that the peace of the latter half of the 20th century was directly purchased by American power and blood. This is a Nixon/China moment. They would have laughed at George Bush saying that even if it was true.

Whoever wrote this speech isn’t being paid enough, this is clearly the best speech I’ve ever heard him give.

Now he is going back to his normal stuff, he is about to hit Gitmo etc…

Ran outside to sand the walk before the wife leaves for work so missed it from that point where he says Wanting peace is not enough it make it happen.

The only applause he gets is when he hits Gitmo, the torture line is BS. this tells us more about this crowd then anything else.

I think he is going too long now, if he is smart he will cut is short here.

He is now talking about proliferation.

Those who care about their own security can’t ignore localized arms races.

He talks about the need to act rather than sit back concerning sanctions.

He talks about freedom of speech and religion and it’s necessity for peace.

He hits Burma and Zimbabwe and Iran by name holy shit he is sounding like an Actual president!

Update: The Wall Street Journal is liveblogging this speech.

He now gives Copenhagen a thumbs up and plugs climate change. Nonsense but not unexpected.

Hits the concept of “Holy War”, throws a bone to Islam by attacking the Crusades. He hasn’t read his Thomas Madden.

Clearly a first rate speech and a decent job. I think it was very much a Nixon China speech. On Morning Joe they point out that the European left will not like this speech.

Update 2: The NYT Take is here.

Talkleft describes the situation as a travesty of a Mockery, it’s true in my opinion he doesn’t deserve the prize but it’s a consolation that the socialist European left that gave him the prize had to listen to him tell them that their ideal world only exists thanks to American Power and Blood, that’s gotta leave a mark!

I guess this is sort of a non-traditional liveblog of President Obama Nobel Olympic Speech, I’d be interested if people think I should have done a more traditional one with timestamps and more direct quotes.

Update 3: Is it just me or could George Bush have given that speech with only minor alterations?

Update 4: I guess I’m in good company

Sarah Palin and President Obama don’t agree on much, but last year’s Republican vice presidential nominee just gave the president’s defense of “just wars” a thumbs up in an interview with USA TODAY. In fact, she said that the president’s address in Oslo, where he accepted the Nobel Peace Prize today, reminded her of what she wrote on the same subject in her hugely successful memoir, Going Rogue.

Smart woman that.

…for putting the Richard T. Antoun murder by an islamist on page one.

Good luck waiting for the rest of the media to catch up.

Oh and three cheers to the Old Time Diner next door to Romano’s for the Pastrami on a bulkie with Grilled onions and Cheese that I ate while reading that paper.