Posts Tagged ‘obamacare’

…I just wrote that elections have consequences, but Joe just correctly said that votes have consequences too.

Oh an you parents who couldn’t wait to see your kids move out, age 26 baby.

6:08 a.m. Joe: “You wonder if he thinks Americans are stupid.” I don’t wonder if he thinks that at all.

6:09 a.m. Republicans have to be careful? what is Halperin drinking?

6:11 a.m. “A loss on this bill would have been a vote of no confidence for Barack Obama.” You want to see a vote of no confidence? Wait till November. Look at Mika’s face when she says it is a victory, a word beginning with “O” comes to mind and she is going to likely be the most restrained on the air.

6:14 a.m. Scarborough and Pat are right that Stupak and his 6 will get the majority of the wrath. The far left in the Democratic party will not be sorry to see even “phony” pro-life people be gone.

6:15 a.m. Another “making sausage” cartoon by someone who has never seen Mike Romano make his.

6:23 a.m. “Happy Monday” says Mike Allen of politico, and he isn’t just giving a greeting, no bias here.

6:25 a.m. “They have something to run on.” Boy Allen must have been drinking something strong.

6:33 a.m. Apparently the days of Tea Party protests are not as significant as the immigration protests.

6:50 a.m. O’Donnell will be interesting to hear today.

7:09 a.m. Take a look at Lesley Stahl’s face, it’s all about the O.

7:11 a.m. Joe says democrats will pay in the fall, Stahl insists they don’t know that, this person is a professional political reporter?

7:14 a.m. Harold is trying to re-write this history of 1994.

7:24 a.m. I can’t tell if there is a tax increase in it says Lesley Stahl. Remember this is a professional reporter with years of experience behind her.

7:25 a.m. My wife who hates politics has talked about nothing else this morning. Pay attention democrats; You have awakened a sleeping giant and filled it with a terrible resolve.

7:31 a.m. Halperin says this allows the democrats to be a “pro-life” party. This is a joke and Chuck Todd is drinking the kool-aid.

7:34 a.m. I’m sorry to be vulgar but looking at Mr. Gregory this morning it is all about the O for him too. It’s a good thing he isn’t in the studio.

7:36 a.m. This was supposed to be skillful? Oh come on!

7:39 a.m. Sam Stein calls Stupak being called a name on the floor being worse for the Republicans. He must have partied very late last night.

7:45 a.m. The Majority Whip says this is a fundamental right, Pat asks him about illegal immigrants being covered. Clyburn says this is better for the country.

7:52 a.m. Stahl compares President Obama to Reagan. This is again supposed to be an experienced political reporter.

8:04 a.m. Cornyn says the deals won’t survive the reconciliation process. Points out the president will be happy but the House won’t.

8:05 a.m. “Because they were legislating against the polling public.” Lawrence O’Donnell is exactly right.

8:06 a.m. Cornyn: “Pelosi got people to vote against their own self interest.”

8:09 a.m. Joe asks Hunt if the Democrats feel better, he answers that it is easier to defend something than the status quo.

8:11 a.m. Mike talks about the media narrative changing. It is true statement, but look at her face, that is the story, it gives the media a reason to feel good about Barack Obama and that’s what the bill was all about.

8:13 a.m. O’Donnell points out the tax increases aren’t indexed so inflation will take many of the middle class into those tax increases. O’Donnell must think this is REALLY bad for democrats politically for him to be saying this stuff out loud.

8:26 a.m. Mike from Politico: “This assures that his (Stupak’s) Phantom concerns remain phantom.” The point about some of the Stupak people being in safer districts is an important one, the question becomes as a Catholic has he put himself in a “safer” place?

8:41 a.m. Russett: ” I’m glad that I don’t have to talk about this in my district. ” This was all about fishbating the vote.

8:44 a.m. This is all like the “civil” rights movement? This is the whole lesser sons of greater father bit.

8:46 a.m. The history professor says this is in the same moral universe as the voting rights act and this is a history professor I’ve gotta make sure I find what college he teaches at so my kids can avoid it.

8:48 a.m. O’Donnell confuses healthcare coverage with healthcare delivery. Joe calls it a “False moral argument.”

8:51 a.m. Joe: “The democratic party wants to take over healthcare.”

9:00 a.m. They are guessing on a lot of this says Lawrence as it ends.

I know I’m beating a dead horse here, but never forget that in a representative republic we always get the government we deserve.

We as a nation let ourselves be taken and voted for President Obama when his voting record, beliefs etc were all out there. In an information age we decided to ignore the info.

Conservatives sat on their hands and decided to teach the republican party a lesson, well here is a lesson for you, congress will still get first rate health care, it is you conservatives who decided that John McCain was too liberal who will see your care change, but you are not alone. You republicans who considered Sarah Palin’s populism so bad for the country that nothing could be worse, try socialized medicine on a grand scale.

David Frum’s idiocy
not withstanding (I guess he hasn’t recovered from the free beer party at CPAC yet) only the conservative Tea Party movement prevented this lemon from passing a year ago but even that awakening is likely not going to be enough to make the difference.

As a nation we elected these people to make our laws. As a nation we will live and die (literally in this case) with this decision. We are responsible and we are going to pay.

Like other great changes it will take a generation for the full impact to be seen but it will be, and our current issues with the healthcare system will be a walk in the park compared to this.

Update: I disagree with Phil Klein. I don’t blame Bush. His primary issue and duty was victory in the war and he provided it. I suspect that a lot of the reason he let some of this spending through was to provide victory in the war.

With Iraq safely won it is easy to through rocks and George Bush, but let me tell you, although I don’t think this will be repealed it is a lot better to have a bad bill to repeal than to have to recover from a lost war.

Little Miss Attila’s and the Anchoress’ sites. Near the end of the presentation the writer asks a question.

I am not certain why this very obvious outcome has not been openly discussed more often

It is because when your goal is to socialize medicine this result is a feature not a bug.

Let’s ask a better question. Considering the number of years that it takes to become a doctor and the result this will have on the profitability of that business, will the best and brightest choose medicine? Given what will happen to the pharmaceutical field will the smart young person go that route when choosing a career?

The best in the batch can usually write their own ticket, the government just canceled the tickets to the medical field and unfortunately for me and my sons the primary effects of that cancellation of that ticket will hit when I am of retirement age and when they are my age. Perhaps by then I will not be considered cost effective enough to be allowed care. Not to worry, with some luck the heart problems my father had might hit me well before then…but I’d have to take up drinking and smoking.

It must have been to re-assure the “abortion caucus” that any deal involving Stupak didn’t really restrict abortion. At least that’s my guess.