Posts Tagged ‘palestinians’

Remind me why they deserve a state again?

Posted: December 26, 2010 by datechguy in opinion/news
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Remember the idea “oh if only the Jews give up Gaza THEN there will be peace?” Well think again:

He admitted for the first time that Hamas was responsible for the massacre of young men, most of them teenagers, at the yeshiva. The attack was carried out by a Jerusalem Arab.

Obadiah also said Hamas was responsible for the murder of seven other Jews in attacks in the Hevron area and Samaria. He warned Israel that Hamas will continue to attack Israelis, who he said have to choose between “death and leaving Palestinian lands.” He also called on Israeli Bedouins, many of whom have been involved in terrorist attacks and arms smuggling, to help carry out attacks Israelis.

The fact is nobody actually paying attention to what Hamas and the “Palestinians” say has any delusions about what they have in store for Jews. And let’s face it Christian Arabs aren’t fleeing the area because they decided they wanted a cooler climate.

The usual suspects have ignored this for years, but for some reason if you do a search for “Christians fleeing Bethlehem” in Google, under news the results are spotty at best and if you do the same search in Bing there are a bunch of stories about “Iraqi Christians living in fear”.

Now I don’t like Christians living in fear anywhere but funny how the MSM only notices this in Iraq. Isn’t it?

then odds are you’ve crossed the line.

But hey Helen Thomas is an old lady it’s not like you have mainstream magazines advising people not to help out during Israel’s big fire right?

There are a great many good causes in Israel that deserve help, and a great many causes here in America that deserve our help. It seems to me, however, that Israel’s national fire service should be funded by Israel’s government, not by the people of Boca Raton, Potomac and the Upper West Side.

My sympathy is with the people who lost their lives, their families, and those still in danger. It is not with a government that appears to be negligent. And I’m not going to contribute funds that might serve to paper-over the government’s inadequacies.

You know I don’t quite remember his column saying that the US shouldn’t have accepted help in the BP disaster or that the rest of the country shouldn’t have helped New Orleans since the state was corrupt and didn’t use federal funding properly.

What is really odd, while bloggers like Jim Hoff are rightly upset at least one group of people are unexpectedly not taking Goldberg’s advice

Twenty-one Palestinian firefighters arrived at the Mount Carmel region on Sunday to assist Israel in its battle against the huge wildfire which has claimed the lives of 41 people.

Hey Jeff when even Palestinians are helping when you are advising otherwise, I’d say think again, but then again the American Left has really degenerated when it comes to Israel and Jews over the last 30 years. It’s been amazing to watch. I’m happy to see Alan Colmes hasn’t succumbed.

Update: Stacy nails it:

There is blood on her hands, just as there is blood on the hands of Hamas, Hezbollah, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and al-Qaeda. Indeed, by her slanderous accusations against Israel, Helen Thomas dips her hands in the blood of Bobby Kennedy and proclaims to the world that RFK was wrong to support Israel, and that Bobby’s killer was right.

This is not a debate about U.S. foreign policy or about the terms of peace between Israel and Palestine.

We can debate such things civilly and amicably. But there can be no room in that debate for those like Helen Thomas who foment anti-Semitic paranoia by making accusations of mala fides against Israel’s allies, claiming that anyone who defends Israel is “owned” by shadowy Zionist conspirators.

Via Josh Trevino (to whom I still owe a drink) we have this story out of Israel:

“If people ask when Jews will lose their majority, then it’s already happened,” DellaPergola said. “If one combines the Palestinian population of the Gaza Strip and West Bank, includes foreign workers and refugees, whose numbers have grown rapidly in recent years, and omits Israelis who made aliya under the Law of Return but are not recognized as Jews by the Interior Ministry, then Jews are slightly less than 50% of the population.”

The finding is potentially significant in the context of efforts to reach an accommodation with the Palestinians.

As Mark Steyn has said many times demographics are destiny so if Israel doesn’t do something their state will disappear through sheer numbers. Lucky for the children of Israel instructions have already been given to solve that solution by their founder:

God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them: “Be Fertile and multiply and fill the earthGen 9:1

Be fertile , then and multiply ; abound on the earth and subdue it,Gen 9:7

Personally I don’t think Israel is going to find a better source of advice do you?  I personally think all of western civilization should follow it.

 

 

One of the things that drives me nuts is the denial of things directly in front of you.

The first comes from Isreallycool as he demonstrates the dire conditions that Palestinians in Gaza

My point is not that there is no hardship in Gaza, but rather that the situation is a far cry from what is being presented by the Palestinians, their supporters and the mainstream media. Introducing Al-Azhar University, Gaza’s second largest university with over 11,000 registered students between eight faculties: Pharmacy, Medical Professions, Science, Agriculture, Education, Arts, Economics & Administrative Sciences and Law.

And don’t forget the Mall photos of course.

The second is even more serious and comes from Shrinkwrapped, it’s pure unadulterated 100% Racism:

When considering the possibility that a third force, such as NATO, could be given the responsibility of overseeing the implementation of the planned agreement, Mahmud Abbas imposed a condition: that there should not be a single Jewish soldier and any Israeli. “I am ready to accept a third party which supervises the implementation of the agreement, NATO forces for example, but I will not accept the presence of Jews in these forces or a [single] Israeli on the Land of Palestine.”, emphasis mine

Is such a demand tainted with antisemitism? It should not come as a shock, if we remember that Mahmud Abbas defended his doctoral thesis which was based on Holocaust denial at a school for political indoctrination in the Soviet Union.

Some may see a polemical and ideological expression in the term “racist,” but Mahmud Abbas’ demand with regard to NATO leaves no doubt in this respect.

I am constantly amazed that those who refer to Israel as an “apartheid state” never address the need for arabs to demand that any “Palestinian” state be completely Judenrein? Shrinkwrap continues:

For the American left the rationale for ignoring violent eliminationist rhetoric from all corners of the Muslim world is two-fold. We quite reasonably want to minimize the power of the Islamist narrative that posits a civilizational war between Islam and the West; in addition, ignoring the Islamist rhetoric while violently addressing those who attempt to put such rhetoric into action allows us to keep the war relatively hidden from the home front. Unfortunately, the outcome of such denial is an enemy that has command in the information war and the loss in small bits of our civilization’s legitimacy.

And this continues, Just this week a scandal erupted in Iran over a weightlifter (winning a silver) appearing on a podium next to an Israeli (who won the gold) even though he refused to shake the Israeli’s hand.

And back in August we had an Iranian “competitor” fake an injury rather than face a Jew in the final:

Alex Gilady, an IOC member from Israel who handed out the medals for the competition, said it was a tactic by Iran to avoid violation of Olympic rules.

“Once he (Soleimani) was injured, that meant he still would win the silver … have to stand on the podium and listen to the Israeli anthem and see the Israeli flag over the Iranian flag,” Gilady said. “They put him in an ambulance so at least they would not create a crisis that would have demanded further action. So it looks like everything is OK.”

Every time the left passes on this stuff without comment they further cement their cowardice and irrelevance.