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The Pope walks

Posted: May 11, 2009 by datechguy in catholic, opinion/news
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You know everything the Pope does gets worldwide attention. When he lifted the excommunication on the St. Pius X society “bishops” the press took the opportunity to jump on him as an anti-Semite. I wonder what they will say after today:

Taking the podium after the pope without being on the original list of speakers scheduled for the evening, Tamimi, speaking at length in Arabic, accused Israel of murdering women and children in Gaza and making Palestinians refugees, and declared Jerusalem the eternal Palestinian capital.

Following the diatribe and before the meeting was officially over, the pope exited the premises.

Apparently a few years ago the guy tried the same thing with John Paul II.

Damian Thompson comments:

I reckon the Holy Father responded appropriately. He didn’t precipitate a diplomatic incident by refusing to shake the speaker’s hand, but by leaving before the meeting was over he made it absolutely plain that the Vatican does not take sides in the Israel-Palestine dispute.

The American Papist comments and notes a parallel:

Pope Benedict is a model of Catholic dialogue. Evidently there are some cases of “dialogue” that are actually “false dialogue”. If Pope Benedict is willing to walk out of a dialogue he sees as unfruitful and even harmful, what should that tell us about avoiding situations of dialogue that contradict our Catholic principles?

Oh and PS … the “Notre Dame Center”?!

Hint Hint!

LGF notes it. Gateway Pundit does too.

Nothing yet from Atlas or Yourish but Isreallycool has coverage of the trip and reveals that apparently the pope can’t please anyone, certainly not the former chief Rabbi of Israel:

“A few points were missing in the pope’s address,” said Lau. “There was no mention of the Germans, or Nazis, who carried out the massacre. There was not a word of sharing the grief or of compassion or pain for the six million victims.”

“Instead of the word ‘murdered,’ as the previous pope John Paul II used,” Lau continued, Benedict XVI used the word ‘killed.’ There is a very clear difference between the two verbs,” the former chief rabbi stressed.

The youtube of the “offensive” speech is at his site…

…oh and by the way in case you didn’t notice the Palestinians are STILL sending rockets into Israel.

Update: Glenn comments:

Hey, you can’t have meaningful dialogue with some people. So why pretend?

Update 2: Atlas Shrugs asks the question:

What was the Pope expecting? Hasn’t he read the Quran? This was pious speech! As if these savages were capable of “peace” — it is an anathema to islamic doctrine. They will never accept a Jewish state.

It’s not a question of what do you expect. The pope since he is the pope is going to treat everyone he meets with Christian love and respect. It’s up to that person to earn it. This one didn’t.

The other McCain throws a shot at LGF:

Following the diatribe and before the meeting was officially over, the pope exited the premises. Army Radio reported that the pope shook Tamimi’s hand before walking out.
The Pope was immediately denounced as a “Eurofascist” and a “notorious Pamela Geller sympathizer” by the Little Green Footballs blog.

I might have added that last part.

Update 3 Hotair’s headlines notice

Update 4 The Anchoress:

Some forums are complaining that the pope didn’t leave in the middle of the speech. Some are complaining that he shook the sheikh’s hand on the way out. I say give the Holy Father props for maintaining the absolute minimum diplomatic courtesy to a very discourteous person and then absenting himself from this evil. I say give him some props for appearing to be the last man on the international stage with some both dignity and moxie.

Update 5: I guess we now know what they will say. Why am i not even slightly surprised?

Two generations is all it takes

Posted: May 10, 2009 by datechguy in opinion/news
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While writing about a totally different subject Robert Stacy McCain accidentally hit on something that is a major pet peeve of mine. Here is the excerpt:

It is no surprise, really, that the great scandals of American journalism — Stephen Glass in 1998 and Jayson Blair in 2003 — occurred about 30 years after Watergate, by which time the starry-eyed liberal do-gooders who entered the business in the 1970s had become editors and journalism professors.

That is the effect, Moe Lane documented the cause (also quoted by Mr. McCain).

Honestly, I think that everybody involved would be happier if we just established once and for all that the Watergate scandal was a disaster for the newspaper industry; it encouraged an entire generation of reporters to go out there and try to change American society, instead of simply documenting it.

It is the two generation theory. When a seminal cultural change takes place it takes two generations for that change to have it’s effect. One generation for the Children to be born who didn’t have that cultural norm and a second for them to be in a position to be teachers who didn’t have that cultural norm. Three years ago when I first became an official nazi to the left in a long letter on Glenn’s blog I commented on this concerning our culture:

Since the 60’s two unifying forces, for good or ill, were removed from the country: the removal of Judeo/Christian values as the semi-official moral code of the public schools) and the death of the draft/aka Vietnam. (actually ending in the 70’s). These two changes had one thing in common, it took two generations for them to have the following effect:

It is now unlikely that a student going to school today, had a teacher or parent who 1. Served in the military or 2. Was taught that moral code in school. To a whole generation now being born these are things that belong to outsiders. This makes the military and religious people outsiders and strange to one group and vice versa. Since the military draws predominantly from those two groups it will become more isolated from the rest of the public as time goes by.

This is not healthy for our country. What is worse is that one group has slowly vilified the military assuming them to be all dupes or thugs. A lot of this was political rhetoric but it has grown as a matter of faith.

Let me expand on this in terms of the social order. At the time before the Supreme Courts ruling on school prayer legitimacy rates were high in both the black and white community, drug addiction was not rampant sexual norms were pretty much the same they had been for years and the rates of STD, teen pregnancy et al were correspondingly low, teachers were in control of their schools and authority in general was respected.

When the rules changed on school prayer 5 years later the effects were minimal, all the teachers and all of the students above the 5th grade had been exposed to the old code of behavior and to a great extent lived it. Some started to experiment in the new relative morality but the existing value system was still in place.

Fast forward 20 years and things are now getting looser. The successful protests of Vietnam, the ruling of Roe v. Wade led to changes. Military service was questioned and the primacy of the woman’s convenience over the life of an unborn child was established (in reality it is the desire of the father to avoid responsibility that tended and still tends to be the driving factor). A generation of teachers who had been exposed to the old code but were no longer taught it existed. Some were of military families and christian tradition but that tradition was not to be exposed in schools and their very control of the classroom was subject to lawsuits. The rates of teen pregnancy, illegitimacy, divorce, drug use, std’s et al had all grown significantly, but standards existed. For example:

The idea that a teenage girl would send a naked picture of herself to her boyfriend was almost unthinkable.
The idea that a doctor should prescribe drugs to kill a patient was a violation of his most sacred oath.
The concept of “Gay Marriage” didn’t exist.

(Remember we are talking the 80’s here not ancient Rome).

Now come to today; two generations have passed and where are we?

Rates of teen pregnancy are very high to the point where schools now accommodate it as a norm.
“Sexting” has entered our culture.
The Black illegitimacy rate is incredible, as is the corresponding incarceration rate.
Drug use and abuse has reached the point where the battle for the vast profits threaten to overwhelm our southern neighbor; And even legal drugs are prescribed to a large extent to allow people to cope.
Thanks to our 42nd president many teenage girls (to the delight of teenage boys) believe oral sex isn’t sex. The idea that we teach children to avoid sex early is scoffed at. Abortion is an accepted norm. (all meaning more consequence free sex for boys and men!)
Several states not only have assisted suicide but are considering expansion of it.
Police officers at public schools is a necessary norm.
If you oppose “Gay Marriage” you are now considered a bigot by the mainstream media unless you are the president then the media give you a pass because they assume you’re a liar.

…this is called progress.

We have a huge cultural divide that dates from those splits from the 60 and early 70’s. We have a church going culture on one side and a secular one of the other. Our highly successful voluntary military is second to none, but comes largely from the religious cultural side. Politically we have divided in the same way. As a general rule the left will come from the secular side of the aisle and the right from the religious. There are exceptions which is why it is referred to as a general rule.

Nowhere is the divide more apparent than in the gay marriage issue. As Mr. McCain noted in another post today the AP is singing the praises of the 5th anniversary of Gay Marriage in Massachusetts.

What is significant is the fact that we are only 5 years into this vast cultural change which I maintain like abortion and euthanasia are exercises in narcissism. You can’t judge the cultural effects on such a change that fast. I’m turning 46 in a week but my father and uncles fought in World War II (of course compared to Harrison Tyler who’s uncle fought at Gettysburg I’m a piker) so perhaps I can see a generational cultural difference earlier than most, I’ve lived it. In 15 years I’ll be 61 and everyone will be able to see the effects before they harden into stone, then decisions will have to be made. Lets hope they are the right ones.

Update: Here comes that Alpha inventions link again bopping up my stats, I’d really like to find out if this is a bot or if it’s real. If you are a real person getting the link please click on this link about the new Si-Fi novel Escape from Hell.

I’ll be able to judge if this is a bot by the number of hits that link through.

I mentioned how the book Escape from Hell by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle is a great book for conservatives. Reading this story about the student who shot the home invader I can’t help but quote this passage from the book pages 150-151:

“And that one?” I pointed to a man up to his chin in boiling blood. He was screaming in agony so his face was distorted, but he looked Oriental.

“New one,” Billy said. “Seung, something like that. Went out and shot a bunch of people in the college he was at. Allen, it puzzles me that a man can shoot thirty-two full-grown men and women before the sheriff’s men gun him down. You’re more his time, maybe you can tell me. Why didn’t someone just shoot the son of a bitch?”

I scratched my head. Billy’s viewpoint seemed skewed, alien.

“Five of ’em where teachers,” Billy said. “They had to protect their kids. How could they now be armed? It’s as if someone has been taking away their guns.”

It’s as if someone had taken away their guns.” Well they have been trying.

And if you haven’t bought the book yet, what are you waiting for?

Nancy Pelosi doesn’t seem to have a firm grasp of language as he maintains this proves she didn’t know about waterboarding:

“As this document shows, the speaker was briefed only once, in September 2002,” said Daly. “The briefers described these techniques, said they were legal, but said that waterboarding had not yet been used.” (emphasis mine)

Let me give a message to the speaker of the house, when someone says: “Not Yet” that means its going to happen and I can speak from the following experience:

Back when I was dating my wife we went to cape cod for Valentine’s day. I had a comic store at that time and sold baseball cards. We visited a store on the cape and was talking to the owner. I then introduced Valery and had this exchange:

“Is this your wife?”

“Not Yet.”

At this point the alarms went off in my head and in her eyes. I hadn’t proposed yet, although I was thinking of it. In fact a friend who was so convinced that I would rush to propose bet me that I couldn’t hold off till May. I took that bet.

For the rest of the day she looked at me with a big grin. The next morning I explained the bet and asked her hypothetically if she would marry me. She hypothetically agreed and we planned the wedding on the spot.

So after 21 years of marriage Nancy let me tell you something; if someone says “Not Yet” that means it’s coming, as if you didn’t know.