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One of the dangers of demagoguery an issue is that if you are caught it’s hard to get your credibility back.

For several days the left decided that the Tea Party and Sarah Palin were responsible for the shootings in Arizona

Alas not only did the facts point elsewhere but the violent anger of the left was exposed

Then came the Palin attacks and the re-deification of president Obama alas reasonable people aren’t buying the Palin line when actually seeing her speech found it sincere and believable.

Meanwhile as the blogs (even media ones) continued to document the madness of the left (and the people continued to reject it) little bits of info came out that to take the luster off of the president’s event.

But the left thought they had hit the jackpot with Eric Fuller and a new narrative was born:.

Alas their hero managed to threaten a tea party member during the taping of a national broadcast and get himself committed.

And despite ABC’s downplaying the event it is at the top of Memeorandum although MSM sources don’t mention that it was a tea party member threatened.

Now the script for the Monday shows that was already written will need to be re-written again. Morning Joe should be fun.

The internet is just killing the left. When they expose themselves it just can’t be hidden anymore.

I feel bad for the people who were killed and wounded in Arizona, I really do, but the idea that a person who was shot, who never knew the shooter, who didn’t hear the shooter make any declaration knows what drove him is pretty loose.

I gave a pass to some of the friends of the victims on the day of the shooting. Their friends and/or family had been shot and/or killed and emotions were high, but as the evidence continues to show the shooter had absolutely no connection to anything remote resembling the tea party, Sarah Palin or the like, the media’s attempt to continue to assert this is frankly libelous. Then again this is from the actual day of the shooting when facts were not in evidence.

Of course as Aaron Worthing of Patterico’s Pontifications points out:

notice what he doesn’t say. He doesn’t say he presently blames Palin, Beck, and so on for the attack. He is saying he did Saturday night. And of course that was the same night that Sheriff Nifong Dupnick was making his own intemperate remarks. So is it reasonable for the Mr. Fuller to have believed law enforcement on that issue on that night? Of course it is.

But you never hear them ask the obvious follow up question: do you still feel this way? And if you look at the rest of the report, created today, it is obvious that these people are completely dishonest. They have deliberately skewed every other piece of evidence to indict the right wing, leaving out every piece of evidence that might exonerate their targets. Why should we think they presented this man’s entire statement?

The use of “Democracy Now” (or as I like to call them ANSWER tv) as a primary source is always dubious to begin with but I guarantee you that will not stop the MSM for playing this for all its worth. This nearly guarantees that Morning Joe will be unwatchable for next week as politico is running with it and David Frum is already trying to weld it as a club. Way to go Dave, stand bravely cowering behind a man with a hole shot in him. Pretty low stuff.

The game is of course to play the Cindy Sheehan “Absolute moral authority” game. The left made Sheehan a national figure until she became a liability at which she was abandoned as a crazy. The goal of course is to bait us on the right to bait the right to hit the poor old fellow.

Bill Jacobson (who will be my guest on DaTechGuy on DaRadio on Feb 19th) gets it:

I wish you a speedy recovery, but you are wrong for all the reasons most of the rest of the world has come to understand in the last few days.

P.S., yes, you will be used by those who will hide behind your victim-status since they have no facts to support their theories

I feel really sorry for the man, the shooter used his blood to make himself famous and now the left and the media will use to try to salvage a meme they can’t support with facts. Disgraceful.

Meanwhile Stacy McCain, not taking the “attack the victim” bait, takes the trouble to use the shooters own words to make the case against:

  1. Jared Lee Loughner didn’t like ”illegal wars,” which are “unconstitutional,” an opinion you might have heard a lot circa 2002-2006 if you were hanging out with smelly peaceniks at International A.N.S.W.E.R. marches or Ned Lamont rallies.
  2. Jared Lee Loughner habitually used the term “genocide” to describe anything he was against – “Mom, this broccoli-and-cheese casserole tastes like genocide!” — just like every Chomsky-spouting punk who ever protested an Ann Coulter speech on a college campus.
  3. Jared Lee Loughner’s interpretation of the Constitution is nearly as crazy as the majority opinion in Lawrence v. Texas.
  4. Jared Lee Loughner hates cops, considers grammar a form of “mind control,” and felt that getting a “B” in class was a violation of his First Amendment rights. If he hadn’t become a mass murderer, he might have had a promising future as an ACLU lawyer.

You can find the video here.

The irony of course is the wars and genocide stuff would fit perfectly within the program schedule of Democracy Now.

Funny old world isn’t it?

Update: Apparently he isn’t being used, he is apparently out there bigtime:

Toward the end of the town hall meeting Saturday morning, one of the shooting victims, J. Eric Fuller, took exception to comments by two of the speakers: Ariz. state Rep. Terri Proud, a Dist. 26 Republican, and Tucson Tea Party spokesman Trent Humphries.

According to sheriff’s deputies at the scene, Fuller took a photo of Humphries and said, “You’re Dead.”

Deputies immediately escorted Fuller from the room.

Pima County Sheriff’s spokesman Jason Ogan said later Saturday that Fuller has been charged with threats and intimidation and he also will be charged with disorderly conduct.

I think the left’s script for Monday has just changed.

Update 2: Stacy Reports that the left is playing the “Post Traumatic” card. In terms of my personal feelings, I’m willing to give him more of a break in culpability, but in terms of the law, that pity is irrelevant you can’t just let stuff like that go. Or as Spock once said: “I do not approve, I understand.”

While the rest of us have been talking about the media Stacy McCain has been doing something interesting. Actually covering a possible motive and inspiration for the shooting in Arizona:

Loughner’s favorites included little-known conspiracy theory documentaries such as “Zeitgeist” and “Loose Change” as well as bigger studio productions with cult followings and themes of brainwashing, science fiction and altered states of consciousness,

Stacy has been all over this angle that has been largely ignored. Today he linked to the movie itself

ABC quoted the friend of Loughner concerning this obsession and was quickly threatened with legal action. Stacy continues:

Yeah, “considering legal action” is one of those wonderful phrases, isn’t it? There are entire blogs devoted to denouncing the Zeitgeist Movement/Venus Project as a cult or a scam or some combination of both, and yet the director is “considering legal action” because TV networks interviewed a friend who said Loughner was into watching Zeitgeist.

And it’s all because he’s challenging the “status quo” of the “Social System” which, of course, the real villain. Also, Peter Joseph/Merola wants you to know that he is a persecuted humanitarian. So if you criticize him, you’re just like those people who called Martin Luther King a commie.

Eventually there will be a trial and when it happens Stacy’s stories are going to be very linkable. Let the record show he was first.

After a tough drive and an afternoon of shoveling I was dead tired so I hit the sack early so I didn’t hear the president’s speech or read it yet.

The clips on the TV are OK. On Morning Joe they are giving it the Gettysburg Address treatment but I suspect if his entire speech was “I like cheeseburgers” they would find a reason to be complementing him but they have seen the speech and I have not so I’m at a disadvantage.

I still resent Joe’s statement that both sides were trying to make hay of this. One side attacked and the other defended.

I’ll withhold my own judgment on the speech until I read it and check some reviews. Anything I do before I take the kid to school will likely be here, after that I’ll put it on a new post.

Update: From what I’m seeing the speech was pretty good. Michelle Malkin notes it was a good speech.