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Some thoughts on yesterday’s events.

Apparently the left’s degree of hate is so large and their sense of honor so non-existent that the death of a 8-year-old girl and a federal judge is just another club to hit republicans in general and Sarah Palin in particular.

Listening to CSPAN this morning the template has already been made and it will be used against talk radio, the Tea Party etc. Facts be damned. What despicable people.

Looking at this analytically it is 30+ years since a member of congress was slain (the Jim Jones situation) and the last time a congressman was shot was back in the 30’s and that was an era when gun control was almost unheard of. The risk of this type of thing is a lot less than people think.

There are many basic responsibilities and duties of being a member of congress. Meeting with the people you represent constituents one of them. There is also a degree of risk inherent in being a public figure. I would remind every single member of congress that every single one of them begged the people for this job. There is nothing wrong with being careful but if you choose to use this as an excuse to dodge those you represent than you need to resign now.

As it has been said by Rahm Emanuel , never let a crisis go to waste: Expect people some to use this to ban guns and to stifle debate. I think this is a simple reality and complaining about it isn’t going to help, all one can do is call them out on it.

I think it is a huge mistake to make this shooter a public figure and to promote his tweets and youtube videos. That is the easiest way to promote this as a dramatic way out for the next loon.

I hate to say but looking at CSPAN this morning with Bill Press I have to conclude Glenn Reynolds is on the money with this:

As with Mike Bloomberg’s immediate effort to blame the Times Square bombing attempt on the Tea Party, this swift reaction betrays their hope for an issue that could save Obama by defaming his opposition. It also demonstrates that all their “have you no decency?” talk is a sham, since when push comes to shove, they have no decency themselves. Just desperate blood libels.

How many of our rights are we going to choose to surrender in order to make people think they are absolutely safe?

Steve Den Bestie wrote about the fog of news yesterday’s events were a perfect example of this.

Anyone who thinks that the tens of thousands of people praying for Gabrielle Giffords did not make a difference in her survival is in denial.

This is also a testament to medical science and to the team that saved her life, sometimes we overestimate the power of medical science but it is a really amazing just how far we have come.

The two statements above aren’t mutually exclusive.

And it’s an odd coincidence that yesterday morning I scheduled a post of my book reviews of a volume called Bloody Crimes dealing with Lincoln’s assassination and the attempt to capture Jeff Davis.

And big thanks to Robert Stacy McCain, Roxeanne DeLuca, Val Prieto and Barbara Espinosa and John Weston of Conservatively Speaking for staying the extra hour and to all our listeners who joined us online for the extra hour on the shooting.

Update: Instalanche! thanks Glenn, and don’t forget Instapundit readers. he is my scheduled Guest for next week’s DaTechGuy on DaRadio Saturday at 9 p.m.

Oh BTW In comments I think I misinterpreted Chris’ critique, he didn’t think I was blaming atheism but didn’t like the line concerning the connection between the very unlikely survival and condition of a person shot through the brain and the spontaneous prayer of tens of thousands. I think the connection is no coincidence. To understand my thinking further I would suggest this post from March.

Allow one caveat to personal friends of any of the victims for the next 24 hours or so as they have been subject to an angry shock and are likely not thinking straight today let me give you the following rule to follow:

If you are blaming Sarah Palin and/or the Tea Parties for the shooting of Gabrielle Giffords you are self identifying yourself as a person who is so deranged with hate that you should not be taken seriously on any issue.

Update 12: Did I actually see Jane (I’m not a member of the NVA but I love to pose on their AA Guns Fonda) say this?

@SarahPalinUSA holds responsibility. As does the violence-provoking rhetoric of the Tea Party

The victims of the killing fields of Cambodia were not available for comment.

Update 11: Michelle Malkin is all over this and has some interesting screen captures.

Update 10: I wish it wasn’t true but there is already a Memeorandum thread with Tbogg, TPMDC, Crooks and Liars and Clustershock all blaming Palin. Can we safely say that all three of these sites can and should be avoided on general principle? And glenn reports Kos is airbrushing his site.

Update 9: Stacy McCain is all over this and will be joining us for a special 2nd hour of DaTechGuy on DaRadio to talk about this subject along with Barbara Espinosa reporting from Arizona and Val Prieto from Babalu Blog (who is my primary guest).

Update 8: this is from his YouTube channel:

Books:

I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver’s Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.Books:

Ooooo boy.

Fox is reporting that 12 people were shot at the event along with Gabrielle Giffords (D AZ-8). We don’t know motive or details but this reports suggests that it might have been a target of opportunity:

The Democrat, who was re-elected to her third term in November, was hosting a “Congress on Your Corner” event at the Safeway in northwest Tucson when a gunman ran up and started shooting, according to Peter Michaels, news director of Arizona Public Media.

At least five other people, including members of her staff, were hurt. Giffords was transported to University Medical Center in Tucson. Her condition was not immediately known.

Giffords was talking to a couple when the suspect ran up firing indiscriminately and then ran off, Michaels said. According to other witnesses, he was tackled by a bystander and taken into custody.

The tragic irony is that her husband is was in the service and she is wounded.

We have no idea if she was targeted specifically, if this was a nut with an agenda, a nut without an agenda or something more. It it a bit disgusting to see that already some are trying to make hay of this.

Ah a tweet from the left blaming Palin, I guess Rahm’s idea of not letting a crisis go to waste is being taken to heart by at least one person, but then again it’s only one tweet.

The Anchoress reports that there is no shortage of people trying to make hay of this:

Giffords shooting horrific; so are flying theories: http://usat.ly/e4NSjp! “Right did this cuz Palin urged!” “Left did this to blame Palin”

Within 24 hours we will know a lot more, I would urge folks on both sides to keep a cool head until we know more. Remember the Bill Sparkman fiasco.

Update: it’s getting ridiculous:

She was on Palin’s target map, ah the right did it.

Ah she is Jewish maybe a Palestinian did it.

Ah she is against the repeal of Obamacare the tea party did it

Ah she is pro border fence, the open border people did it.

Ah she likes McDonalds more that Burger King, the Burger King people did it.

Do you get the idea? Let’s cut this stuff out and pray for her and her family and also for the gunman and his (her?) family as his soul has issues. There’s plenty of time for political fights later.

Update 2:
NPR and Fox reports she and several others are dead. Horrible!

Update 3: Gateway has a story here. Always remember that service carries risks and one should honor service when it is offered.

Update 4:
The Anchoress updates

It is appalling to note that some on the social media circuits are already letting the conspiracy theories fly according to their agendas – some on the left are already tweeting about Sarah Palin and gun imagery and some are not beneath bringing the full-crazy and wondering if this was done purposely to blame Palin. Not the time, folks. It’s kind of disgusting when you hear someone is shot and the first thing you do is try to figure out how to fit the terrible news to your political worldview. Blame the gunman.

Update 5: Hotair here

Let’s not forget this is the risk every person takes when they become a public figure.

Update 6: I think we can safely say that the Anchoress admonishment can be directed directly to Tboggs at firedoglake. To call him dishonorable is redundant. No word if firedoglake is going to do anything but Eric Boehert is apparently being dishonorable too, but on the plus side apparently she is in surgery and still alive! First bit of good news!

Update 7: Confirmed we will be having a second hour tonight on DaTechGuy on DaRadio tonight specifically on this subject. Apparently the shooter is Jared Loughner and his myspace page is down, last entry was “Goodbye Friends”. If correct sounds like the guy wanted to go down loud. Joe Taxpayer has nailed it in this tweet:

My tea party friends on facebook are offering prayers. My liberal friends on facebook are offering blame.

A lot of people today are really revealing a lot about themselves and none of it flattering.