Posts Tagged ‘islam’

…concerning the White House making their own mess on the Ground Zero Mosque issue (that I really am sick of writing about). The inability to see that the White House turned this into a national story by the president’s statement and then his attempted retreat and the attempt to play the “demagogue” card on the issue.

More amazing is the continued attempts to push the White House to try to use the Bushes to bail them out here. Why either of the Bushes would be compelled to do so is totally beyond me.

It is interesting to note I don’t hear them calling on the silent Bill Clinton to speak up on the issue. Why? Because Bill Clinton is much too smart to do so, particularity if there is the slightest chance his wife will be running in a 2012 primary against this president.

The team did have Irshad Manji on in the first hour and her interesting WSJ piece:

Consider Bob, who feels so offended by antimosque activists in his state of Tennessee that these feelings alone drive him to support more mosques—without prior thought to what, exactly, he’s supporting. “I found local citizens to be intolerant and un-American,” Bob tells me over email. “So as a gesture of tolerance and Americanism, I donated to the mosque building fund.”

Before pledging a penny, Bob should have asked the imam: “Where will the men’s side of this mosque be?” It’s a discreet way of discerning whether the project will replicate segregation, and thus whether the mosque will wind up bolstering the intolerant behavior that Bob can’t abide.

She however sees possibility for the Mosque provided some questions are answered:

Namely, accountability. If Park51 gets built, thanks to its provocative location the nation will scrutinize what takes place inside. Americans have the opportunity right now to be clear about the civic values expected from any Islam practiced at the site.

That means setting aside bombast and asking the imam questions born of the highest American ideals: individual dignity and pluralism of ideas.

• Will the swimming pool at Park51 be segregated between men and women at any time of the day or night?

• May women lead congregational prayers any day of the week?

• Will Jews and Christians, fellow People of the Book, be able to use the prayer sanctuary for their services just as Muslims share prayer space with Christians and Jews in the Pentagon? (Spare me the technocratic argument that the Pentagon is a governmental, not private, building. Park51 may be private in the legal sense but is a public symbol par excellence.)

• What will be taught about homosexuals? About agnostics? About atheists? About apostasy?

• Where does one sign up for advance tickets to Salman Rushdie’s lecture at Park51?

These questions aren’t gratuitous. I, for one, remain haunted by the 300 Muslims chanting “Death to Rushdie” on Sept. 10, 2001.

Note the date. The fact is radical Islam didn’t first arrive in the US on Sept 11, 2001, it was just the first day Americans realized it.

Will the MSM ask such questions? Will they dare? Will any show other than Morning Joe in the 6 a.m hour dare bring it up?

Even when playing advocate they still do a better job than the rest of the MSM.

My review of the Volume Where did Jesus Die by J. D. Shams is available at Amazon.com here

This is written from the perspective of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community and was given to be to read by the Imam of the local Mosque. It would appear to be long out of print.

In this post:

Imagine yourself on the evening of Sept. 11, 2001.

As you sat there in shock, what if someone had told you that in 10 years, the World Trade Center would still be a crater. However, just off of Ground Zero, a gigantic, 13-story mosque would be erected. A mosque endorsed by President Barack Hussein Obama.

You would have thought we had lost a war, wouldn’t you?

I don’t see how anyone can honestly disagree with that statement.

Memeorandum thread here.

After seeing this story and watching it in disbelief (forgetting the political implications) all I could say is this: I’ve not seen an action by this president that more confirms that The Post American Presidency is a perfect title for Pam Geller’s book on this administration.

She comments as follows:

Obama came out for the Islamic supremacist mosque at the hallowed ground of 911 attack. He has, in effect, sided with the Islamic jihadists and told the ummah (at an Iftar dinner on the third night of Ramadan, of course) that he believes in and supports a triumphal mosque on the cherished site of Islamic conquest.

If you had any doubt who Obama stood with on 911, there can be no doubt in our minds now.

I really Really REALLY don’t want to agree with that last statement. I will say is this, considering style, venue and the force of this declaration by the elected president of the United States 2012 can’t come fast enough for me.

I’ve always argued that a free society and free people have the right to be wrong, I just never thought we’d exercise our right to be this wrong!

There has been a lot talk about Illegal Immigration and opposition to Mosques in the US lately. There have been plenty of people who have for political reasons been throwing the word “Racist” around. What these people don’t understand (at least I HOPE they don’t understand) is the reason why we see this much anger over these issues is because Illegal Immigration and Radical Islam both violate the implied American Social Compact.

This social compact represent the genius of America, it is why both the best and brightest and the poor and oppressed have come here. It’s a very simple thing. It works as follows:

1. You can come to America and make a better life for your children and grandchildren.

2. While you are here you can worship as you believe, think what you believe, write what you believe and bring up your children with your values.

3. You can embrace and lovingly reflect your native culture as you assimilate into American Culture

4. You can even over time become a US Citizen and vote how you believe as well.

5. In return we expect you to become American, You will learn the language as best you can and transfer your loyalty to this country.

6. You will obey the laws of the country. You will not work for its defeat or destruction.

7. Regardless of how you feel you will not act on any ethnic or religious grudges you had in the old country.

8. And you will carry your own load, we will provide education for your children and some assistance but you will do your best.

9. If you follow all of these conditions America will help you become the best you can be! And by doing so you will make America a better place.

When Mosques breed Jihadists they are violating this compact. When Mosques do not they are embracing it.

When Muslims practice honor killings in America it violates the compact, when Muslims march with Jews and Christians in 4th of July parades they embrace it.

When you come to America legally you embrace the compact, when you come illegally you reject it.

When come here and work hard to put your children through college in America you embrace it, when you come here illegally and expect your children to get in state tuition you reject it.

Americans understand that we are very lucky to be born here. I understand that I owe what I have to the decision by my grandparents to leave everything and come here from Sicily just over 100 years ago. What the majority of the country objects are people not only ignoring the compact that their ancestors lived by, but claiming to be victimized by those who pay for their safety net and protect the freedoms they enjoy here.

I don’t blame any person from moving heaven and earth to come here, particularly if their own country is plagued by violence, but if you come here and violate the law don’t complain when it is enforced.

Hey I know times are hard I’m on unemployment myself, but I also know that the money that is currently sustaining me is the generosity of the taxpayer and the votes of their representatives. The moment I feel I am entitled to their largess I am no longer worthy of it.