This should be interesting.
“We would have won a primary”…”the notion that liberals would have rejected me is wrong.”
Joe: “Why did the establishment want to beat you up.”
Harold: “At the end of the day I’m a democrat and the last thing I want to see is the seat going republican…this seat could decide the senate…if you can’t hold Massachusetts…” blah blah blah.
He isn’t answering the questions. Joe puts it succinctly, the party is painting him as a right wing nut, but then again playing games with his “evolving” gay marriage position to tailor it to New York. Apparently it is no longer “Gay Marriage” it is “Marriage equality”. When you start changing the names of things that means you can’t win the argument otherwise.
Joe goes about how insane it is to care about the abortion issue. this speech could have been made about the Slavery Issue in 1850. Why should we obsess about Slavery when people are hurting about the Tariff?
The Nation’s representative now says it’s about Racism, of course. Morning Joe has become a full employment program for people from the Nation magazine. They might be nice people but they are so far left that they would never be out there otherwise. This is a bone to their base far left Niche market.
Abortion is again being painted as “reproductive rights”. Again sanitizing things.
The reason why Abortion is such an issue because it is a basic issue of right vs wrong and evil vs good. People may not like to hear it, but that’s the way it is.
The idea that we should “divide” ourselves we should put aside social issues, religious issues and make them not a part of ourselves. That is not the way humans are, and if a person does do that they become well false to themselves.
Joe: “If you are prolife and a democrat in NY you can’t win” and of course if you are a republican in Massachusetts you can’t win Ted Kennedy’s seat.
Isn’t this the same argument that we’ve heard over and over again here that has been proven wrong over and over again? When conservatism fights it tends to win or inspire.
Ford’s bottom line is any primary winner would be too bloodied to win. Personally I’m glad he pulled out. I thought the move to NY was even more cynical than Hillery Clinton’s. I think he let his position on Morning Joe go to his head and make him think he could win. I think he really need to look in the mirror and examine himself and decide what he wants to do personally and what he wants to achieve.
This entire conversation paints a false choice. There are plenty of leaders out there who are pro-life and against gay marriage who are leaders and good ones. To pretend that people don’t want leaders is ridiculous, but it is the MSM that constantly paints people who disagree with their liberal outlook as kooks, who can’t lead.
That abortion love-in this morning was disgusting, I don’t know how many people sitting there were Catholic but if any were and kept silent they ought to be ashamed and more importantly worried.
If Joe and company want to see what leadership is I suggest they broadcast from one of the April 15th tea parties and see what kind of leaders the average people bring up on their own. It was leadership enough to stop an administration with Supermajorities in both houses.
Update: The Lonely conservative is disappointed.
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I was hoping they’d both run out of money during a primary, sigh. New York is hopeless.
Thanks for the link!
It is NEVER hopeless.
People told me in the middle of January that Massachusetts was hopeless. So I agree with DTG.
Furthermore, I don’t think that you even have to be Catholic, or religious, or conservative to have a lot of issues with abortion. Human life is human life and it should be obvious, based on biology and common sense, that the procedure is barbaric and unworthy of a compassionate society.
Even pro-choice women acknowledge that abortion is not a good thing. Women who have had them feel a lot of sadness and anger, even years later, and wish dearly to never have been in that situation. They often also wish that there were other alternatives (dare I say “choices”?) open to them.
The pro-life movement should (and often does – see the Stupak Amendment) span party lines. We can also work on pointing out how ridiculously extreme the current pro-choice movement is – wanting elective abortions up through viability, believing that partial-birth abortion is a Constitutional right, rejecting parental and spousal notification laws, etc. Make them play defence – because, in this day and age, 1.3 million abortions per year is pathetic. Let them defend that – and fail.
[…] I would add it is the obsession on the pro life credentials. It is the same obsession that I saw on Morning Joe today, an attempt to marginalize people due to their unwillingness to make others feel comfortable about […]
Mid year elections tend to sway in the opposite direction of the President anyways. There is no question that democratic seats will go republican this time around. Its not because the country is changing, the country is the same it was in 2008 when the Democrats won the White House and increased their numbers in congress its the natural way of doing things.
Why run in a race when there is the chance that you may lose anyways? Sounds like a waste of cash to me.
Oh, lets end all this ‘Massachusetts showed everyone that the conservative movement is coming on strong’ talk. Had Scott Brown run head to head against Ted Kennedy he would have gotten DESTROYED!