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One more thing about the Cutie…

Posted: May 13, 2009 by datechguy in catholic

I have a pet peeve about people making the argument about priestly celibacy.

About 20 years ago I knew a this girl she was very good looking and everyone married or not (including me) noticed her and she liked being noticed. One day to my surprise she approached me asking my opinion about a married man she was interested in.

When someone asks you advice about dating a married man by definition the argument “He’s a married man!” isn’t going to cut it. So I pointed out that if he was willing to be disloyal to the mother of his kids with her, what will stop him from being disloyal to you once he finds someone he finds hotter? That was an argument she understood. So lets ask the question:

If a priest is ready to break his vows on one thing what makes anyone think that he won’t be willing to break them on another?

As for married priests I actually don’t care which way the church goes on it. We currently have some married priests due to protest conversions It’s not a piece of unchanging dogma but as the father of a family the clash between family and church would be huge and I haven’t figured out how priests managed to do everything they need to already.

It’s a phony argument

Posted: May 13, 2009 by datechguy in catholic
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The Orthometer via the Curt Jester cuts though the nonsense concerning the Fr. Cutie scandal:

He is unapologetic about it. He only regrets causing people pain, not violating his promises, not committing the mortal sin of adultery (the woman is evidently a divorcee). He is so unrepentant that he went on national TV where he said that celibacy is good, but it should be optional for priest. (And the man caught in adultery said, “Marital fidelity is a beautiful thing, but it should be optional.”)

Fr. Richtsteig then hits another 3:

If you want to know what I think about priests “falling in love” and leaving, read this. Said briefly, it is the equivalent of a married man falling in lust with another woman and leaving his family because he can’t control his hormones. Human beings are rational animals not just animals. Yes, we have feelings, but we use our mind and will to discern which are in accord with God’s will and should be acted upon.

I am also not much interested in ‘dialoguing’ with those include Cutie who want to use this challenge the Church’s apostolic teaching on celibacy. One does not need to be sexually active and/or married to lead a normal life or be free from loneliness. No one ever died or became ill from not having sex. If you think optional celibacy is the or a panacea for problem clergy, take a long hard look at Orthodox, Protestant, or Jewish clergy.

We all struggle with our own temptations, I know I do and the Curt Jester has solid advice on it:

He said that he had been under spiritual direction since he was tempted against celibacy and that this is something he struggled with. Too bad he did not take this temptation more seriously and worked to avoid situations where he would be tempted. Becoming a minor celebrity and media personality and being nicknamed “Father Oprah” was probably not the most prudent course if you are particularly tempted in this manner. We should flee from those situations where we know we are easily tempted.(emphasis mine)

Not doing so is like eating food that you know you are allergic to.

Like Mika I’m starting to get Miss Californiaed out but the Anchoress makes a point that is worth quoting:

Let this be a lesson to young ladies everywhere, but especially young ladies who profess Christ; if you’re going to take off your top for a camera, be prepared (sooner or later) to have to answer for it, both in this world, and the next. But in this world, the chances are you will have to defend your nudity against the jeers, sneers and fake prudery of those “open-minded” folks who would never, for an instant, tolerate anyone telling them what they should or should not do with their own bodies, but will crucify you for the choices you made with your own. You’ll have to answer for it because when you profess yourself a Christian, you choose exile, and you will be held to a different standard, entirely, than the world’s.

And that is not a bad thing, but you girls must think about that.

In the next world, of course, you’ll have to answer to Christ, himself, who is much more merciful than the rest of us. He will likely ask you why you threw your pearls before swine.

He may gently ask you if you realized at the time that your actions could lead others into sin, by helping them to treat another human being (you) as a “thing”.

And I can tell you from personal experience: that is one awful question to have to contemplate and answer.

This is the cellphone internet business squared.

Well they stir me

Posted: May 13, 2009 by datechguy in Uncategorized
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The Right Wing Gaming room’s author hasn’t posted (or come to game night either) in a while but today he hits it out of the park:

I had a thought the other day, “The price of peace is simple, merely the chains of slavery.”

Patrick Henry put it much more eloquently as follows:

“Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace– but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”

Do these words stir anyone nowadays?

It doesn’t stir many because of Narcissism! When the only thing you love is yourself the idea that you risk for the sake of others or future generations is just not there.

My generation, the baby boomers are the most narcissistic that has ever lived. We are the only generation that thought they were brighter than their parents as teens and never changed that opinion.

I have a pet peeve concerning the “greatest generation” nonsense. My father’s generation wasn’t the greatest generation, they would have pointed to their parents as better men as would their parents before them. The only reason why that is claimed is because my generation is the WORST GENERATION that has ever lived in this country. We never stopped being full of ourselves and have wasted the gift that our forebears gave us.

Our children, at least the ones not over medicated and under achieving; the generation actually volunteering and fighting in Iraq is greater than ours and it isn’t close.